Dunno. When Marvel started putting dozens of superheroes in one movie, it just got too confusing. And DC's "Superman won't stay dead" trope... it's been done.
how would you reboot star trek?
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I wouldn't.
Well, I was just using The Orville as an example. How it was a black slate, a fresh piece of paper, not beholden to what has gone on before in Trek (for very, very obvious reasons), which is how a Trek reboot would need to work in order not to tell the same stories over and over again.
(I still think The Orville, flawed as it is, was/is the best televisual Trek since Deep Space Nine ended, despite not being Trek. The creatives got the 'heart' of what makes Trek Trek, if only because it didn't make the Starfleet/Federation expy a conspiracy-ridden dystopia, let alone the sense of optimism that streaming-era Trek doesn't have.)
Strange New Worlds made a good effort though. Come to think of it, Strange New Worlds is almost exactly how I'd have rebooted Trek if I had the choice.
Dystopia is overused. Nothing in current Trek points to dystopian society, nor does it lack optimism. They all end more positively than even some TOS episodes!
I would reboot that Trek is not based on our future earth. This way it doesn’t matter if 2063 comes along and there are no Vulcans. Base it in on alternative Earth. E.g Earth 10 or something
One day, if I make it, I'm looking forward to seeing someone complain about how the real 2063 violates Canon.
A lack of universal perfection doesn't equate to "dystopia. "
Dystopia is like Mad Max and Logan's Run...Blade Runner. Not Star Trek...not even on its darkest day.
Agreed. I personally would take something akin to Fallout's universe were they set a clear divergenc point and explore that from there. It could be any point in history, human or otherwise. The capital of the Federation would not be Earth.
I would utilize some technological understanding from today and extrapolate it based upon the setting. So, if 3d printers and their resolution idea can be utilized to begin building the eventual replicators in Star Trek.
The Federation would be more clearly defined, as well as Starfleet under the umbrella of "Federation Armed Services" and including Starfleet Marines of some variant. Also, other government agencies would be identified in some fashion.
Also, more aliens.
dys·to·pi·a
/disˈtōpēə/
noun
an imagined state or society in which there is great suffering or injustice, typically one that is totalitarian or post-apocalyptic.
"environmental disaster is the backdrop to this modern dystopia"
Why is Blade Runner considered dystopian?
It showed a Los Angeles that was overcrowded, rundown, and dirty--except for those few ultra-rich corporate tycoons living in expensive high-rise penthouses above the decaying streets. It wasn't that rosy a depiction of Earth's future.
I don't really think of Blade Runner as a Dystopia. More like 1980s New York with flying cars and Replicants. Though maybe 1980s New York was dystopia. It didn't exactly have that great of a reputation at the time. 
But I agree with the general point Vger23 was making.
But I agree with the general point Vger23 was making.
Marvel. No. DC. Sort of.
Most of what I know about DC and Marvel comes from reading their Star Trek comics in the 1990s and seeing the related ads. If I remember correctly, Marvel had an "Ultimate Universe" line that rebooted established characters parallel universe style.
DC pre-crisis had the OG heroes on Earth 2 and the then modern heroes on Earth 1. Granted the only DC superhero story I ever really read was Crisis on Infinite Earths, so selection bias...
The Ultimate Universe was a sideline, It never replaced the main Universe. It also kinda sucked.
Yep DC was playing in the Multiverse long before many others. It started as a clever way to explain the older takes on the characters. Crisis tried to do away with the Multiverse, but it always comes back.
If I were doing a reboot, WWIII wouldn't happen. Earth wouldn't have become united because they made contact with alien life. Earth would come together out of necessity because globalization makes the world too interconnected. United Earth would've been born out of pragmatism. Earth doesn't make First Contact with the Vulcans. They make First Contact with The Federation. The Federation would be thousands of years old and Earth would become a member of it. Earth would prove itself in a way that would make it stand out. The "frontier" would be exploring galaxies beyond the Milky Way. The separation of galaxies would make the Federation remote and communication would be slow.
How Earth develops would be rooted in 21st Century thinking instead of 20th Century thinking, the Federation wouldn't be Earth-centric (or, really, American-centric), and the exploration/frontier aspect would still be preserved.
How Earth develops would be rooted in 21st Century thinking instead of 20th Century thinking, the Federation wouldn't be Earth-centric (or, really, American-centric), and the exploration/frontier aspect would still be preserved.
Quite.
A new show called "Space Walk" or something sure. If you aren't going to build on the previous stories though, why not create something new.
Fresh start doesn't work.
I'd find most if not all (provided they aren't dead nor have lost their talents) of the employees who proudced tos and Berman trek, and have them creafe a new show, featuring a Mish mash of characters from tng to voy, and include all main cast of all Berman Era shows once or twice a month, and write damn good stories like they used to, this time being an editor or whatever and only allow the VERY best stories to pass. I'd keep the color and lighting "neutral" like it was in Berman Era, not oversaturated like today, or too much light or dark, or floatjng holo displays, etc. The direction would be the Same. The music would be the same. I'd pick up off right after janeways return and you better believe there would be a masterpiece of an episode every week. Stories that really make you think and reflect, and feel deeply and strongly. Deep stories and characters, and no ridiculous stupid memes or unfunny jokes like new "trek".
Lets just say the vast majority of fans would be so happy again
I'd find most if not all (provided they aren't dead nor have lost their talents) of the employees who proudced tos and Berman trek, and have them creafe a new show, featuring a Mish mash of characters from tng to voy, and include all main cast of all Berman Era shows once or twice a month, and write damn good stories like they used to, this time being an editor or whatever and only allow the VERY best stories to pass. I'd keep the color and lighting "neutral" like it was in Berman Era, not oversaturated like today, or too much light or dark, or floatjng holo displays, etc. The direction would be the Same. The music would be the same. I'd pick up off right after janeways return and you better believe there would be a masterpiece of an episode every week. Stories that really make you think and reflect, and feel deeply and strongly. Deep stories and characters, and no ridiculous stupid memes or unfunny jokes like new "trek".
Lets just say the vast majority of fans would be so happy again
Why don’t you just go back and rewatch the Berman era? Replicating a mood and style from three decades ago would not wash now. It would be a curiosity piece for fans and no more. You need to move forward in life, not backward, or the entropy (which had set in by the mid to late 90’s for Berman Trek) will gobble you up.
Tbh I already see SNW as something of a reboot, and the Kelvin movies, too. That’s not a bad thing—fans get way too over exited about the prime timeline and canon and whatnot.
If I was doing a Trek reboot from scratch, I’d probably create a whole new ship and crew, maybe exploring the farther reaches of the galaxy. I don’t see the need to keep using the same TOS characters. I’d try and be more imaginative, with more focus on hard sci-fi and only, bit by bit, drip feed information about the Federation, other species and so on. I’d borrow elements from the old lore but create new things, too. Part of the problem with current Trek is the lore is so dense that it’s not very accessible for non-Trek fans. To ensure the longevity of the franchise, it needs to bring in new fans.
Of course, I don’t think fans would go for anything too different. I think these days they just want comforting familiarity, as IamaParrot proves.
That's absurd.
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