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How would you feel about The Orville if it was an official Trek show?

How would you feel if The Orville was an official Trek series?


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I wouldn't. Can't fire first, no emotion on the bridge when doing something great, no snark between officers, the Prime Directive. :barf:

I'm very happy The Orville is off doing its own thing. Building its own universe and legacy.
It could be a decent Star Trek series with the same actors and slightly upgraded effects. However, they would need to cut down somewhat on the less serious parts.

Still it works fine the way it is. Not better than Trek, but a fine alternative.
No, the whole point of the question was if you could accept this kind of stuff in a Trek series. Saying they'd take that stuff completely goes against what I was asking.
 
No, the whole point of the question was if you could accept this kind of stuff in a Trek series.

Could I? Yes. Could CBS and the majority of fans? Probably not.

But I still think we're better off with The Orville doing its own thing. Trek has kinda boxed itself in.
 
It wouldnt work for me, because Trek is a drama show, not a drama/comedy mix. If you have comedy in Star Trek, it is entirely situational comedy without a joke punchline. That's also why the comedy works very well in Star Trek: It is believable and since the show has an overall serious tone, the "surprise" factor, when comedy hits, is much greater. Brent Spiner did some hilarious comedy with Data.

"Orville" had such a perfect Trek comedy moment: When Bortus left his appartment while his partner was watching TV and eating comfort food, they shared one long look at each other - without a word, just through body language, the situational comedy worked perfectly, because it was realistic.

Also Trek is a period piece. It shows mankind several hundred years from now and thus these people have a different culture than ours (like we have compared to the people during the 1600-1700 years). They behave differently, speak differently. Which Trek reflected perfectly. "Orville" drops this concept entirely. While the time and science is 400 years from now, the human beeings are from the year 2017 and not from a period far in the future. This breaks the realism of the show.

The contemporary pop culture references work in Star Trek only, when they come from an individual character motivation like Tom Paris and his love for old movies (that's why they work also in "Guardians of the Galaxy", since Quill was a kid on earth during the 70s and thus has a motivation to cite pop culture because of the connection to his childhood).

BTW I personally whould have jump started the pop culture references in Orville by having Mercer a personal interest in this (because his family were active in the entertainment industry of old earth for example, under the name "MacFarlane" back then) and as captain he uploaded his private collection of videos into the ships computer and the crew discovers it over time and refers to it.
 
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It wouldnt work for me, because Trek is a drama show, not a drama/comedy mix. If you have comedy in Star Trek, it is entirely situational comedy without a joke punchline. That's also why the comedy works very well in Star Trek: It is believable and since the show has an overall serious tone, the "surprise" factor, when comedy hits, is much greater. Brent Spiner did some hilarious comedy with Data.
Up to this point the Trek shows have been dramas, but I don't think there's any reason they couldn't do a full on Trek comedy.
 
It wouldnt work for me, because Trek is a drama show, not a drama/comedy mix. If you have comedy in Star Trek, it is entirely situational comedy without a joke punchline.

Exactly so.

Trek is solemn. There is no irony in Trek. This is why humor in Star Trek is generally lame, in-joke stuff and their attempts to do comedy usually suck.
 
There would be whining, hatred and discontent all over the place.

It would just be largely from different people who are currently whining and spreading hatred and discontent about Discovery right now.

But it would be about the same percentage overall...and about the same level of vocal minority "us against them die die die!!!" kind of fanaticism in small camps.

Sad but true.
 
This is why humor in Star Trek is generally lame, in-joke stuff and their attempts to do comedy usually suck.

Nopedinope.

I guess you are more the kind of Schadenfreude comedy type, hm? Cake in the face, and stuff like this.
 
For Orville to be an official Trek series, there'd need to be a more competent captain, more serious tone in the dramatic moments, and you couldn't have certain of the overly silly moments like giving the advanced society reality shows to display in a human zoo or leg amputation accepted as a fun prank.
 
For Orville to be an official Trek series, there'd need to be a more competent captain, more serious tone in the dramatic moments, and you couldn't have certain of the overly silly moments like giving the advanced society reality shows to display in a human zoo or leg amputation accepted as a fun prank.
All good reasons for why I'm glad Orville is its own thing.
 
Exactly so.

Trek is solemn. There is no irony in Trek. This is why humor in Star Trek is generally lame, in-joke stuff and their attempts to do comedy usually suck.

I disagree on all counts, including your signature, but then this is a Star Trek forum, so that shouldn't be surprising.
 
Up to this point the Trek shows have been dramas, but I don't think there's any reason they couldn't do a full on Trek comedy.
They could be the little reason that this trek comedy could be completely different in both tone and content than all previous Trek series, maintaining the idea of Star Trek only in the name. Sure like everybody here I watched the Trek porn movies, but it doesn't mean I consider them proper Star Trek.

EDITED: *wait, I'm not the only one, right?

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Seriously, you could make a Trek comedy, but it would have to have the sensibility of Star Trek. I'm not creative enough to know how exactly. To be more than name recognition, it must include stuff that made Star Trek great. I don't see how (to make it good), but I guess it's possible.
 
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