How will they ever be able to name STXII?

[Cepstrum]

I understand JJ & friends called their movie just plain Star Trek to help appeal to the masses who might be turned with being referred to — even unofficially — as STXI. The name they chose makes sense, is simple, and obviously, it worked.

It *does*, however, cause a little bit of a nuisance among Trekkies; Star Trek to us means all of Trek. Hence, fans have resorted to calling it by four principal names: STXI, ST09, nuTrek, and AbramsTrek (or some variation of the last).


So, how will they title the next one? Star Trek II? Star Trek: [insert subtitle]? The latter seems likely, but.....

And how will Trekkies refer to it? We can't call it nu/Abrams/JJ Trek. And quite often people ( including me) refer to Trek movies by their subtitles but their order: eg, STIV for ST:TVH.


I'm just wondering what their system of naming might be.

 

[Avon]

it will be given a name.

and people will get used to it.

 

[Gojira]

I think they will go back to the old way of doing it with Star Trek in the title followed by a subtitle, just like Star Trek: Generations or Star Trek: First Contact etc.

 

[F. King Daniel]

They could always do a Dark Knight and miss the subject out of title entirely (i.e. no "Batman"/"Star Trek") I think "Federation" would be a pretty cool one-word name. Or maybe "Khan"

"Enterprise" would probably work too, but it might have negative connotations after the failed TV series.

I saw a mag the other day calling it "Star Trek 2". I must admit, use of "2" in the title would annoy me.

 

[Greg Cox]

Exactly. They stopped numbering the TREK movies as far back as GENERATIONS. They'll just give this one a subtitle: STAR TREK: RED MATTER or whatever.

 

[M'Sharak]

I saw a mag the other day calling it "Star Trek 2". I must admit, use of "2" in the title would annoy me.

There have been references to the next movie as Star Trek 2 in one way or another since about a week after the last one hit the theaters, but I see that as nothing more than a place-holder (or working) title. I doubt very much that we'll see an official title featuring a numeral.

 

[DarthAkuma]

Star Trek: (insert subtitle)

no more. no less.

 

[THE CHEBB]

Star Trek: Numero Dos

 

[Blue Squadron]

In many ways, it will make most sense as (nu-) Star Trek 2.

I wouldn't *call* it that as a title, but it *is* probably the best way of thinking about it. Continuing to use the increasing sequence of Roman numerals to refer to these things is now utterly pointless. In fact, to be honest, I'd say that the Roman numerals became completely redundant beyond the end of "ST-VI: The Undiscovered Country" - after that the nature of progressive sequel movies in the franchise changed and the numbering was quite correctly dropped from the official titles. Some parts of the fan community may have continued to use the Roman numerals but by the time you reach ST-VIII and ST-IX it actually seems much easier to refer to the movies by their given subtitles anyway!

Continuing to use the format "Star Trek: [insert subtitle here]" would seem to be the obvious way forward.

For fan discussion use, we will by common usage eventually settle on a consensus as to some form of shorthand that differentiates between the old and new movies. Previously we had ST-III, ST-VI, ST-V, etc maybe now we'll refer to nuTrek1, nuTrek2, nuTrek3 and so on...?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Whatever they call it, I'll probably use the shorthand "STXII" when I'm talking about it. Everyone will know what I'm talking about, so I don't think it'll be a problem.

There's always the possibility that when the trilogy is done, JJ will retroactively rename his first Trek like a certain other guy with a franchise involving the word "Star" did.

 

[Blue Squadron]

Oh and forgot to say that while I agree that giving each movie an individual title like "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" is actually quite a nice idea, I strongly suspect that from a marketing point of view they'll want to maintain the overall franchise name.

"The Dark Knight" worked very well for the second of the Nolan movies but then it is an alternative soubriquet for the Batman character that has been around for quite some time and was very well established by the time it was used for the movie (plus it also works well as a pretty cool movie title...!).

I can't think, at the moment, think of an equivalent for Trek that would have quite the same broad recognition and general audience appeal outside of fandom - and that's what the studio marketing bods will really be looking for.

Obviously movie titles ideally need to be relatively short and snappy in order to achieve maximum recognition and discussion value once a movie is released but, from the Trek back-catalog (depending on the story of the movies) these might work:

To Boldly Go

Live Long and Prosper

Where No-one Has Gone Before



The first and last are probably the most recognisable to the general public and they will either not know or not care that WNMHGB was the title of the second TV pilot for TOS.

Given Nimoy's reading of the classic monolog at the end of the last movie then WNOHGB might just work...

 

[Nardpuncher]

Just so long as it's not an Re------- word. I hate those. Like Redemption or Rebirth

 

[YARN]

Just so long as it's not an Re------- word. I hate those. Like Redemption or Rebirth

Star Trek: Reloaded

Star Trek: The Wrath of Retcon

Star Trek: Reanimated

Star Trek: Revenge of the Romulans

Star Trek: Return of the Kling(on)

 

[Greg Cox]

To be honest, the tendency to number sequels is a fairly recent trend, only dating back to the seventies or so. Before that, sequels had actual titles like THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN or TARZAN FINDS A SON or MA AND PA KETTLE GO TO HAWAII or whatever. To be honest, I kind of miss those days. To my mind, ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES is more fun (and memorable) than PLANET OF THE APES III: THE ESCAPE.

 

[Quantum_Penguin]

2TAR TREK

yeah, I'm going to hell for that...

 

[Etched]

^Trouble is you just know that some exec somewhere is going to suggest that title for real.

 

[CaptainStoner]

Star Trekkin: Across the Universe

 

[F. King Daniel]

STAR TREK.
2TAR TREK.
STAR TR3K.



(And it'll be all your fault, Quantum_Penguin! )

 

[Blue Squadron]

Indeed.

But you may have inadvertently hit on something with that...

:/

 

[Aragorn]

Trekkin'.

Exactly. They stopped numbering the TREK movies as far back as GENERATIONS. They'll just give this one a subtitle: STAR TREK: RED MATTER or whatever.

The Blu-rays and latest DVD re-releases have roman numerals on the cover art for whatever reason.

Is it true that some Trekkies were actually angry that they dropped the roman numerals? I read it somewhere but never found any confirmation. Though considering some of the posts I've read on this site, it wouldn't surprise me now.