How was Voyager supposed to be finished?

[ReadyAndWilling]

So Endgame wasn't so great. To me, it seemed like they were playing a game on God mode with all those one shot Borg CUBE kills.

What other ways did the writers conceptualize Voyager ending?

Thanks

 

[nx1701g]

I recall reading in, I believe it was the Companion, that they considered ending Voyager with the ship still confined to the Delta Quadrant and further back than they were because of their actions destroying the Transwarp Hub.

 

[Newski]

I recall reading in, I believe it was the Companion, that they considered ending Voyager with the ship still confined to the Delta Quadrant and further back than they were because of their actions destroying the Transwarp Hub.

I would have liked to have seen that... Really didn't agree with ANY of their actions in the finally. Particularly the playing God and the Genocide.

 

[AuntKate]

I heard that they thought about having Seven of Nine sacrifice herself for the good of the ship and crew.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

I heard that they thought about having Seven of Nine sacrifice herself for the good of the ship and crew.

Urgh, I'm glad that didn't happen.

 

[apenpaap]

IMO they should have ended Voyager like the "Places of Exile" story in "Infinity's Prism": Voyeger doesn't get home, but they bring home to the Delta Quadrant.

 

[kes7]

I recall reading in, I believe it was the Companion, that they considered ending Voyager with the ship still confined to the Delta Quadrant and further back than they were because of their actions destroying the Transwarp Hub.

I would have liked to have seen that... Really didn't agree with ANY of their actions in the finally. Particularly the playing God and the Genocide.

The genocide was particularly horrifying ... after as much experience as that crew had redeeming Borg drones, I'm amazed it never occurred to them that the rest of the Collective probably wasn't any different than their "favorites." Sure, the Queen was a bitch, but the rest of them? Was that truly necessary?

 

[Ssosmcin]

Personally, I would have preferred a "not reaching home" finale. I never enjoyed final episodes which take the characters to a place where they will be splitting up and doing other things. It's kind of depressing. Endgame wasn't DS9 depressing, but it still took characters who enjoying being together - many who had learned to see Voyager as home - and took that away. Besides, after 45 minutes of showing the crew's alternate post-homecoming, we never got to see what happened next (I don't read the novels - except Homecoming, which, frankly, stank).

Since Star Trek isn't anything close to real life, I don't need these "life goes on and separates people" endings. I liked TNGs finale (and even Turnabout Intruder) which just shows the characters going on to their next destination in their mission. I'd prefer to leave it open for future adventures, which would make the books more fun, rather than creating convoluted plots to bring them back together.

Besides, as Kim said, "it's the journey."

 

[NIUPonyBoy]

I'm fine with a getting home ending, but SuperVoyager wasn't needed. They could have captured a single transwarp wormhole and signaled the fleet with it, no future Janeway needed even. And then that fleet that was saw in endgame could have had it's way with a smaller Borg fleet than we saw.

 

[ReadyAndWilling]

I'm fine with a getting home ending, but SuperVoyager wasn't needed. They could have captured a single transwarp wormhole and signaled the fleet with it, no future Janeway needed even. And then that fleet that was saw in endgame could have had it's way with a smaller Borg fleet than we saw.

Yep, this would have been great.

Have the Federation send a fleet of ships. Maybe throw in some advanced ship to quench the thirst for some new technology.

 

[Red Ranger]

I actually would have liked an ending similar to Year of Hell, minus the reset button: Voyager is destroyed when it rams the Borg Queen's ship, causing a chain reaction, killing everyone on board. Kind of like Blake's 7's end. That would've been different! -- RR

 

[cyph]

Eh, I liked the ending. F*ck the borg, lets bring the fellas home with god-mode armor and weapon cheats.

 

[kes7]

Eh, I liked the ending. F*ck the borg, lets bring the fellas home with god-mode armor and weapon cheats.

That is the most concise, awesomely accurate description of Endgame I've ever read.

 

[CDP]

Eh, I liked the ending. F*ck the borg, lets bring the fellas home with god-mode armor and weapon cheats.

lol

 

[pah2602]

How about if they found a way home? some sort of black hole/ energy vortex/ whatever that presented some new challenge /enemy but it actually worked!! How pissed off was I after the 20th episode of ooohh look we found something that will take us home but it's too small or it dissapeared at the last minute or it was unethical to use it. LOL unethical like whan Q offered to drop them home? Nah we'd rather suffer another 70 years of this shit. Oh wait kill 10 million borg and sup-up the voyager. NICE Random killing and questionable morality bedamned AGGHHHH

 

[Red Ranger]

How about if they found a way home? some sort of black hole/ energy vortex/ whatever that presented some new challenge /enemy but it actually worked!! How pissed off was I after the 20th episode of ooohh look we found something that will take us home but it's too small or it dissapeared at the last minute or it was unethical to use it. LOL unethical like whan Q offered to drop them home? Nah we'd rather suffer another 70 years of this shit. Oh wait kill 10 million borg and sup-up the voyager. NICE Random killing and questionable morality bedamned AGGHHHH

Well, Q was trying to bribe Janeway. Besides, getting a chance to destroy the Borg was just too tempting for Janeway to resist, for as we've seen, she had a bloodthirsty side. The ends justifies the means, and all that. Not exactly the Starfleet way, but it was refreshing. I still wish they had all been killed in their effort to get back home. Then there wouldn't have been that pointless Janeway cameo in NEM. -- RR

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ I thought it was a great and very much welcome cameo. It was nice to see a post-Voyager Admiral Janeway.

Personally, I would have preferred a "not reaching home" finale. I never enjoyed final episodes which take the characters to a place where they will be splitting up and doing other things. It's kind of depressing. Endgame wasn't DS9 depressing, but it still took characters who enjoying being together - many who had learned to see Voyager as home - and took that away. Besides, after 45 minutes of showing the crew's alternate post-homecoming, we never got to see what happened next (I don't read the novels - except Homecoming, which, frankly, stank).

Since Star Trek isn't anything close to real life, I don't need these "life goes on and separates people" endings. I liked TNGs finale (and even Turnabout Intruder) which just shows the characters going on to their next destination in their mission. I'd prefer to leave it open for future adventures, which would make the books more fun, rather than creating convoluted plots to bring them back together.

Besides, as Kim said, "it's the journey."

Those are the kinds of endings I hate the most. They rarely work for me. I prefer a definitive conclusion to whatever story has been set up. What we should have gotten with Voyager was a little more to "Endgame", covering what happened when they got back. I wouldn't have liked a "journey continues" type ending.

 

[mirandafave]

I think that's true. At least the ending was concrete and that way we don't rail against the fact we never knew if they would make it home. Certainly, not just ending with the ship flying into warp on the way home - there'd be no resolution and a frantic dying to see how it ends. If you want to end on with an ambiguous ending then have Voyager flying into a wormhole, transwarp tunnel, fleeing a massive explosion, whatever, and white out the screen and fade in credits.

 

[Red Ranger]

Keeping Voyager in the Delta Quadrant would've been if the tv show The Fugitive ended without Richard Kimble getting even with the one-armed man. A big cheat! I think TNG and DSN had better endings, though. -- RR

 

[USS Kongo]

^ I thought it was a great and very much welcome cameo. It was nice to see a post-Voyager Admiral Janeway.

I liked seeing Janeway in Nem, as well. There were never enough crossovers between the sequel shows for me (of course, it was kind of hard for Voy to have crossovers with the others).

I thought the ending to Voy was very contrived. Starting the show with them getting home was very anti-climatic for me. It would have been better for them to just go through a regular adventure without the time travel aspect. Then save the homecoming for the last ten or twenty minutes or so, to let people relish it.

Sean