How the hell is she Captain?
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Kirk, Scott, and Sulu participated in the theft and destruction of the original Enterprise, but they got to stay or become captains. Picard led an Insurrection against a Starfleet admiral and he got to stay captain. And quite a few cast members have disobeyed orders or gone on rogue operations and have kept their ranks. Starfleet seems to be a pretty forgiving organization, at least toward regular cast members.
Remember that Chakotay, B'Elanna, & Paris were all in the Maquis & Paris did time in that penal colony in New Zealand. Now Chakotay is Captain, Paris is his #1 & Torres is the chief engineer of the Full Circle fleet.
Why don't you ask Captain Chakotay?
Well, Michael Dorn is pitching just such a telemovie.
If they make it, I'll watch it. 
Same here, Worf is one of my favorite characters in the franchise. And yes I have read Diplomatic Implausibility and it is one of my favorite Trek books.
As for Ro being Captain, she did rejoin Starfleet in the last few books of the DS9Relaunch 1.0, and as others have pointed out Starfleet seems pretty forgiving when it comes to characters' pasts.
As for Ro being Captain, she did rejoin Starfleet in the last few books of the DS9Relaunch 1.0, and as others have pointed out Starfleet seems pretty forgiving when it comes to characters' pasts.
A terrorist organization dedicated to fighting the same people the Federation went to war with three years later. Funny how that works out.
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Who's who is usually decided by who ever has power.
There have been countless act of rebellion throughout history that were considered terrorists by who ever in charge.
Take for example the Netherlands, where I live. During WWII, when the Netherlands where occupied by the Germans, we had our resistance. They fought back, blew buildings up, all the things a resistance would do. Thing is, back then, the Germans considered them terrorists. Even some Dutch people weren't to happy with them, since they made living here even more of a hell. You know, the Germans getting more oppressive since we are fighting back and such. And yes, collaboraters were killed aswell. There's even a good change innocent lives were lost during bombings.
Now, 67 years later, these terrorists are called freedom fighters, the heroes that fought for our country. Like Sci said, funny how that works huh?
There's more to the world then black or white, good or bad. Only Hollywood lives in world where bad guys are bad guys and good guys are good guys.
the Maquis personnel on Voyager probably had charges against them dropped due to 7 years of good conduct on Voyager in the DQ.
Mage is right. What gets forgotten in current rhetoric is that terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology or a nation. It's a means to an end, the use of random or excessive violence as a propaganda tool to demoralize an enemy or persuade them to abandon a war or an occupation when it is not possible or practical to overwhelm them by conventional military means. Thus, it is generally used by the weaker side in a confrontation, such as a minority group at odds with the establishment or the indigenous populaton of an occupied nation. It's more situational than ideological. It can be used to serve an ideology, of course, but it can just as easily be used to serve other causes.
By modern day standards George Washington would be classed as a terrorist.
As a Irishman I have to say that if it was not for the Old IRA, the Irish Republic would still likely be under British Occupation. And while I disagree with a lot of the Tactics used by The PIRA in Ulster, Catholics are no longer treated as second class citizens, as they were before the troubles.
As a Irishman I have to say that if it was not for the Old IRA, the Irish Republic would still likely be under British Occupation. And while I disagree with a lot of the Tactics used by The PIRA in Ulster, Catholics are no longer treated as second class citizens, as they were before the troubles.
Did the Maquis ever attack civilian targets on either side?
That guys an even worse choice for captain than Ro though.
At first, I was also shocked that Ro was made captain. My rationale was that Starfleet needs captains just as Akaar told Sisko. Since Ro has adequate training and experience, she got the promotion.
With Starfleet in the condition it is, they may promote people who they wouldn't have a few years before.
I agree that since Voyager's Maquis crew were accepted into Starfleet, they couldn't legally hold Ro back. That would be a double standard.The precedent had been set.
With Starfleet in the condition it is, they may promote people who they wouldn't have a few years before.
I agree that since Voyager's Maquis crew were accepted into Starfleet, they couldn't legally hold Ro back. That would be a double standard.The precedent had been set.
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