How powerful were the Talosians?

[xortex]

Well, the Talosians couldn't force them to stay. They had to want to stay on their own which is why they staged Pike's accident with Spock's help. If they are smart, which they are not, the next movie will focus on the Talosians and Pike waking up in a cage and Kirk has to rescue him. Heck, if they were smart they would have used Q in a TNG movie. If Spock is a traitor and conspiritor he should be hung up by his Vulcan ears.

 

[Timo]

Number One was as close to being emotionless as a Vulcan.

Which makes one wonder - could the Talosians read a Vulcan or #1, considering the former are definitely harboring some extremely strong emotions, and the latter may well look so Vulcan because she, too, is constantly seething with rage and consumed by love etc.?

Apparently, Spock felt he was being read and manipulated when the starship went haywire in orbit. But was he?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[xortex]

I thought Spock should have been telepathically manipulated since the motion picture but yea, it's interesting to wonder if he was in contact with them in some way.

 

[Gotham Central]

I've always been confused about the Talosian's mental abilities. They call them illusions but how does that work in practice? When you really think about what they offered Pike, would it really have been any different that hooking him up to a holodeck...or simply wiring his brain into a computer? What would his and Vina's life really be like? since neither are really all that mobile, did they just spend their days sitting around pretending to have lives?

Plus how do their illusions result in people interacting with tangible things. For instance...at the end of The Cage, Number One notes that the laser cannon blew the top off of the hill with the elevator. If someone had simply run up and tried to touch the doors, would they have fallen into turbo lift shaft that they could not see? Did Pike really need to threaten blow one of the Talosian's head off. If he had simply walked up to the melted window, wouldn't he have fallen through if he had hit the hole?

The Talosians cannot create anything tangible...its all illusion.

 

[MarsWeeps]

I've always been confused about the Talosian's mental abilities. They call them illusions but how does that work in practice? When you really think about what they offered Pike, would it really have been any different that hooking him up to a holodeck...or simply wiring his brain into a computer? What would his and Vina's life really be like? since neither are really all that mobile, did they just spend their days sitting around pretending to have lives?

The illusions were so powerful that they seemed real. If you can't tell the difference between illusion and reality, is there really a difference?

Plus how do their illusions result in people interacting with tangible things. For instance...at the end of The Cage, Number One notes that the laser cannon blew the top off of the hill with the elevator. If someone had simply run up and tried to touch the doors, would they have fallen into turbo lift shaft that they could not see? Did Pike really need to threaten blow one of the Talosian's head off. If he had simply walked up to the melted window, wouldn't he have fallen through if he had hit the hole?

They could have created the illusion that the person tried touching the elevator doors, or walked up to the melted window, while in reality, the person just stood there. Once the Talosians tuned into a persons mind and saw what they were about to do, they could have inserted an illusion so that the person thought they were actually doing what they planned.