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Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?

What is your view on Discovery?

  • Very positive

    Votes: 81 24.1%
  • Positive

    Votes: 90 26.8%
  • Somewhat positive but hesitant

    Votes: 56 16.7%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 24 7.1%
  • Somewhat negative but hopeful

    Votes: 33 9.8%
  • Negative

    Votes: 34 10.1%
  • Very negative

    Votes: 18 5.4%

  • Total voters
    336
The more and more I hear and see from all the previews and interviews the more troubled I am. They seem to be spending an inordinate amount of energy trying to show everyone just how Star Trekish they are. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't need another Star Trek TV show desperately trying to BE Star Trek instead of just a good TV show. The Star Trek universe should be a platform to tell good scifi stories, not pound us over the head with canon.

I guess we'll find out soon enough anyway.

After just reading the Entertainment Weekly peice from another thread, I'm still cautiously optimistic, but I am worried about how "On the nose" this series is going to get. Are we getting a TV show or a lecture on how to think?
 
It could be a sign of them wanting to be very tight-lipped about the story and not reveal anything substantial in advance. So interviews are mostly high level abstract stuff.
 
It could be a sign of them wanting to be very tight-lipped about the story and not reveal anything substantial in advance. So interviews are mostly high level abstract stuff.

That is true. This series might turn out different than the interviews state, as the interviews are just trying to market the show. Given we're 2 weeks away and the advertising is ramping up, it's really a wait and see mode right now.
 
That is true. This series might turn out different than the interviews state, as the interviews are just trying to market the show. Given we're 2 weeks away and the advertising is ramping up, it's really a wait and see mode right now.

All the interviews and hype are just there for audience building. We still don't know that much about the show. And even if we love (or hate) the premier episode, that still probably doesn't tell us what the series will be like 7 or 8 episodes into it.
 
All the interviews and hype are just there for audience building. We still don't know that much about the show. And even if we love (or hate) the premier episode, that still probably doesn't tell us what the series will be like 7 or 8 episodes into it.

Yeah is this the first trek series where they've been so tight lipped on the actual plot of the show? It makes me wish I was older during DS9 and VOY's marketing, but I really don't remember how those shows were advertised before they actually aired. The only thing I remember about Voyager was the special hosted by Picardo.
 
That's even worse!

Sarek could not get a regular Vulcan wife because his adopted human kid was stinking up his house.

Which is why he had to scrape the bottom of the barrel and take a human for a lover.

Maybe Sarek had a thing for Burnham, but being his step daughter and this not being a porno, he couldn't do anything about it. He ended up going for Amanda, you could think of Winona Rider as a white Burnham.

Kelvin Spock's relationship with Uhura now makes sense as well with Burnham in the picture. He always had this hot older black human girl as his step sister, he probably had a thing for her. So once Zoe saldana came around he was all about it.
 
Yeah is this the first trek series where they've been so tight lipped on the actual plot of the show? It makes me wish I was older during DS9 and VOY's marketing, but I really don't remember how those shows were advertised before they actually aired. The only thing I remember about Voyager was the special hosted by Picardo.

I don't remember much about the advertising for the latter shows back then, I watched them simply because they had "Star Trek" in their titles. LOL

In my mind, about the only thing we know for sure and can count on (so far at least) is we'll be in for some gorgeous and stunning visual effects.
 
In my mind, about the only thing we know for sure and can count on (so far at least) is we'll be in for some gorgeous and stunning visual effects.

The set designs look really cool, especially what they did with the Klingons. To be able to see what they had was one of my top highlights of the convention this year, and the reason I'm cautiously optimistic.
 
Maybe Sarek had a thing for Burnham, but being his step daughter and this not being a porno, he couldn't do anything about it. He ended up going for Amanda, you could think of Winona Rider as a white Burnham.

Kelvin Spock's relationship with Uhura now makes sense as well with Burnham in the picture. He always had this hot older black human girl as his step sister, he probably had a thing for her. So once Zoe saldana came around he was all about it.

You don't adopt adults without cause.

And if you adopt teenagers, they bond differently than if they are under 10 years.

Sonequa is 32, so maybe Michael is 32 in 2257.

Google says that Spock was born in 2230, which means that he's 37 in TOS season one, and 27 in 2257.

Michael may have been born in 2225, if she is the same age as Soniqua, and she would truly see Sarek as her father if she joined the family before she turned 5.

It's possible that Michael preadates Amanda, if Amanda got knocked up on her first pon far with S... Amanda is a school teacher.

Okay.

New theory.

Amanda was Michael's Au pair, or tutor first, and then became Sarek's girlfriend later.

That makes sense.

Do we know otherwise?
 
The more and more I hear and see from all the previews and interviews the more troubled I am. They seem to be spending an inordinate amount of energy trying to show everyone just how Star Trekish they are. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't need another Star Trek TV show desperately trying to BE Star Trek instead of just a good TV show. The Star Trek universe should be a platform to tell good scifi stories, not pound us over the head with canon.

I guess we'll find out soon enough anyway.
Yeah, and the more I hear from the writing staff the LES enthused I get. I just watched the Fan Exopo Canada Cast panel on Youtube - and the staff writer there finally just came out and said - "Most of the writing staff of huge fans of TNG and DS9..." <-- so yeah, I'm startinfg to think it's GR's "24th century Utopian" vision as opposed to TOS' 23rd century "Hey, mankind is 'better', but hey we still use money and have issues".

If it does turn out to be ST 24th century style characters running around on 23rd century styled sets and using 23rd century style props; I'll be out fast.
 
Yeah, and the more I hear from the writing staff (I just watched the Fan Exopo Canada Cast panel on Youtube - and the staff writeer there finally just came out and said - "Most of the writing staff of huge fans of TNG and DS9..." <-- so yeah, I'm strtinfg to think it's GR's "24th century Utopian" vision as opposed to TOS' 23rd century "Hey, mankind is 'better', but hey we still use money and have issues".)

If it does turn out to be ST 24th century style characters running around on 23rd century styled sets and using 23rd century style props; I'll be out fast.
From one tweet I read, I think from the Las Vegas con, was that Beyer was not that familiar with TOS at all. She was more into TNG, DS9 and VOY and had little knowledge of TOS.

The more I read of Jason Isaacs saying his character is "messed up" (using less colorful metaphors than he did!), I think he's more familiar with the 24th Century as well, and actually fits right in with the 23rd Century, TOS style of things.

I will be very disappointed if this turns out to be ENT 2.0.
 
With a seven hundred episode back catalogue, it is a show that can't afford to stumble out of the gate or be more of the same old Trek.
 
I will be very disappointed if this turns out to be ENT 2.0.

There are a few things that bother me, but two really stand out: the disagreement between Isaacs and Beyer about "God" and the actress that plays Cadet Tilly comparing her character to Harry Kim.

I'm not exactly excited about going to the Klingon well yet again, Burnham being Spock's adopted sister or the overall designs.

But the cast is stellar, so it is all pretty much going to hang on the writing for me.
 
TPTB backtracked and said it's OK for STDisc characters to use the word "god." (source)

It is rather silly and pedantic to ban a character from saying "my god" as an exclamation, when there are plenty of instances of that phrase in Trek already.

Kor
 
TPTB backtracked and said it's OK for STDisc characters to use the word "god." (source)

It is rather silly and pedantic to ban a character from saying "my god" as an exclamation, when there are plenty of instances of that phrase in Trek already.

Kor
I agree. Beyond that, saying it was a universe without religion is simply tone deaf.
 
But would an atheist use religious terms in 300years?

Why not? Kirk used the term. Just because religion may have fallen out of favor, doesn't mean people don't know about the ideas of a higher power.
 
But would an atheist use religious terms in 300years?

Religion has been used to explain the unknowable throughout human history, I don't think it's going away anytime soon. For now, we still can't explain how (or why) the universe was born or how life bridged chemistry to biology.
 
Religion has been used to explain the unknowable throughout human history, I don't think it's going away anytime soon. For now, we still can't explain how (or why) the universe was born or how life bridged chemistry to biology.

I would hope that the supernatural in 300 years wouldn't be the go to position to explain the unknown...if so, we've devolved.
 
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