Gee - this sounds like fandom back in 1987...just saying.
So odd to see proclamations of failure considering how dreadfully terrible the first season of TNG was. Discovery looks light years better at the outset by almost any objective measure.
Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?
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So odd to see proclamations of failure considering how dreadfully terrible the first season of TNG was. Discovery looks light years better at the outset by almost any objective measure.
It amuses me that "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" was criticized for not changing at all and Star Trek: Discovery is excoriated for changing too much. It's like production teams can't win or something.
It amazes how a few people dislike something, and suddenly it's an overwhelmingly negative response. The majority of the reactions I've seen on other sci-fi/nerd sites, like Io9, Tor.com, and CBR have been very positive. Sure there are quite a few negative people on here, but I think this poll shows that even here they aren't the majority.
As for how I feel, I'm very positive right now, I've loved everything I've seen in the trailers and pictures, and everything I've read in interviews has sounded like exactly what I want a modern Trek show to be.
Sure the show has had issues, but pretty much every big production these days seems to run into a few issues, so it's really not enough to concern me. Most of those issues also seemed to be early in the production when they were first setting things up, and I don't remember hearing about any major issues once things got going.
It's not a show about Spock's human sister, it's a show about the first officer of first the USS Shenzou and then USS Discovery, who was taken in by Sarek and Amanda after her parents were killed. Hell, we don't even know if they officially adopted her.
As for how I feel, I'm very positive right now, I've loved everything I've seen in the trailers and pictures, and everything I've read in interviews has sounded like exactly what I want a modern Trek show to be.
Sure the show has had issues, but pretty much every big production these days seems to run into a few issues, so it's really not enough to concern me. Most of those issues also seemed to be early in the production when they were first setting things up, and I don't remember hearing about any major issues once things got going.
Heck, even Star Wars-- the Han Solo movie lost it's director(s), Rogue 1 had to have it's second half entirely reshot, and The Last Jedi was pushed back 6 months. Justice League brought in a second director to reshoot a lot of the film, Marvel's Ant-Man lost Edgar Wright a week before production kicked off...
Fans act as if these problems are unheard of and as if they spell doom for the show.
No not unheard of, yes sometimes it means there are serious problems within the production.
Just from losing Bryan Fuller, Discovery will definately be different. Whether that difference mean "worse" remains to be seen.
But different than what? Different than the vision Fuller had before the show even started production? Well, Fuller's vision was different than the idea the studio had before they hired him.
Things evolve on these productions. Concepts and ideas change up to and during production all the time. This wasn't a case of half the season being filmed and they fired the show runner. This isn't a film that 3/4ths the way though production sacked their director.
They lost Fuller before filming began. After production started, we've heard of no real issues or problems.
Do remember that this forum isn't an accurate representation of the public.
Well that's just a lie, Io9 has been running near non-stop doom articles.
I think my posts came across a little snarkier than I intended, so let me put it this way:
If, out of context, you heard about a Star Trek "story idea" about Spock's secret human sister named "Michael" and her adventures fighting Klingon mummies, what would your first reaction be?
Personally, that sounds like hilariously bad fan-fic nonsense or parody. I never said such a premise couldn't work...but come on. Granted, I'm cherry-picking those elements for comedic effect, but on the other hand - they could've done anything and THIS was their 1st choice. This is the sort of thing we would rip someone apart for suggesting over in the Future of Trek forum.
I am specifically referring to the Trek fandom, which, while still a small sample size, I think the poll may be fairly representative of.
Well considering that's not the premise of this show, reaction to that is irrelevant.
I disagree. It sounds that way when you phrase it for comedic effect only.
I could also describe this way:
"10 years before Kirk and Spock, board the Federation's most advanced starship, the U.S.S. Discovery, as it seeks out new life and new civilization. On the edge of Federation space, a young and unsteady Lt. Michael Burnham will be thrust into command, as she attempts to avert a war with the Klingons, while discovering just what it means to be human."
"10 years before Kirk and Spock, board the Federation's most advanced starship, the U.S.S. Discovery, as it seeks out new life and new civilization. On the edge of Federation space, a young and unsteady Lt. Michael Burnham will be thrust into command, as she attempts to avert a war with the Klingons, while discovering just what it means to be human."
You've seen two minutes. Might want to dial down the uninformed opinions a bit.
Those guys have been proven time and again to be liars. They are the same group that said @Serveaux was financing Star Trek Beyond out of his pocket. Well after months of stating that the movie wasn't being made and then it was going to release straight to Blu-ray.
They are also the same group that said Abrams was going to go to jail for embezzling money from the production of Star Trek Into Darkness.
Just because they have a video blog, doesn't make them credible.
Red flags? Delays and changes in production personnel happen all the time during shows getting off of the ground.
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No, it's called being mistaken. But I just skimmed through their last few Discovery articles, and I didn't see any predictions of doom, they were a bit more critical than I had thought, but just because someone isn't loving something doesn't mean they're predicting doom.
I did skim through the comments on the article for the second trailer, and there was quite a bit of positivity there.
Oh, and I really don't appreciate being accused of lying, so next time maybe you could try giving someone the benefit of the doubt before you start throwing around accusations like that.
Either way, it still seems to me that the majority of the reactions I've seen to the trailers and costumes on display at Comi-Con have been mostly
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You've seen two minutes. Might want to dial down the uninformed opinions a bit.
I've seen and read more then enough to form my own opinion (although one image of the aliens they're calling "klingons" for some reason would have done that all by itself). You don't have to share it, but since its my opinion you can't really say whether I've seen enough or not, only I can make that decision.
You have not seen enough to make an informed opinion.
