Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?
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Yes, there's no possible way to get drama from that premise, is there?
I don't see how that premise needs to be a comedy.
Yes, there's no possible way to get drama from that premise, is there?
It's going to be hard to make me stop laughing.
Ok. That's your right, but that doesn't mean everyone else will respond that way.
Why does this make you laugh?
But, how did you like the TOS episode it remade - namely "The Changeling"?
Guys, I'm sorry, but you are naive if you think this show is going to last past the first season. It has "disaster" written ALL over it. There have been so many red flags from the development of the show, and the lukewarm fan reception doesn't bode well for it.
Do I want it to succeed? Of course I do. Any time Star Trek succeeds it's a good thing for all of Trek fandom. But it just isn't looking good, at all.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
Do I want it to succeed? Of course I do. Any time Star Trek succeeds it's a good thing for all of Trek fandom. But it just isn't looking good, at all.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
"Prepare for the worst?" So, it's a lukewarm series and we go back to after ENT was cancelled? That's the worst thing I can imagine. Star Trek is too lucrative a property to sit on the shelf for long, and CBS will do something again.
What red flags were there in the show? Fuller's firing? Seen that before in productions? Mixed reactions? I've read some severely negative reactions towards various properties for years, the last of which was ST 09 and Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
Thus far, DSC strikes me as business as usual for production-this just happens to be a day and age were we here all the nitty gritty details of production difficulties, rather than just seeing the finished project. Personally, I would rather production companies just shut down all communications about their projects and just surprise everyone. But, that won't happen. Too much of an instant gratification culture now, that is hungry for all the juicy tidbits of "news," regardless of how accurate.
That I agree with, I wish I knew nothing about the show, considering that I'm on the brink of writing it off before seeing it. All the crap the actors and writers are saying about the show is highly discouraging. I'd rather watch a few episodes and judge them myself, but I can't help reacting to what the makers of the show insist on announcing.
You know what, I've done that for years with books, music and the like that people I knew, and reviewers and the like, insisting that a particular piece of art was terrible and to not waste my time with it. Now, I completely regret that fact because I missed out on something that I happen to enjoy and couldn't enjoy it with other people that I know.
So, I don't care about trailers, press releases or tweets. I care about the final product and whether or not there is something I can enjoy about it. God bless the production team, but they are not the final arbiter in my enjoyment of entertainment.
Discovery will succeed or fail based on how good it is. If CBSAA fails to garner subscribers, but DSC is excellent and well regarded, Netflix will pick it up. It's likely, considering they're a major investor, that there's even a contingency for such action in their deal.
As for "overwhelmingly negative response" I think this threads poll shows that it's clearly the "vocal minority" -- or at best, the vocal half-- of the fandom, that is giving that impression. This contingent wants Star Trek a certain way, and will cry as loud as they can when things aren't exactly as they want it.
I think what has surprised me the most over the past 2 years since this was announced is how close minded many Trekkies have been, with a heel-digging unwillingness to accept anything new and different. Particularly considering how different each Trek series has been, how we've been through this time and time again-- new looks for Klingons, new style uniforms, different ship designs, emphasis on diversity, you'd think Trekkies would accept all of these things, or at least keep an open mind, based on Trek's long history.
As for "overwhelmingly negative response" I think this threads poll shows that it's clearly the "vocal minority" -- or at best, the vocal half-- of the fandom, that is giving that impression. This contingent wants Star Trek a certain way, and will cry as loud as they can when things aren't exactly as they want it.
I think what has surprised me the most over the past 2 years since this was announced is how close minded many Trekkies have been, with a heel-digging unwillingness to accept anything new and different. Particularly considering how different each Trek series has been, how we've been through this time and time again-- new looks for Klingons, new style uniforms, different ship designs, emphasis on diversity, you'd think Trekkies would accept all of these things, or at least keep an open mind, based on Trek's long history.
^Yeah that always made me wonder as well....
Just how little that anyone wants anything "new".....
Conservative in the extreme!
Had a rerun of DS-9 lately, saw a few eps of TNG and Annoyger.....plus a few old movies....time is not exactly kind to one or two episodes and movies....
But they reflected the times when they where made!
Sometimes the fans are just not fans.....more like the Spanish Inquistition
Burn them all on the stake, heretics haha....man talk about crazy!
Just how little that anyone wants anything "new".....
Conservative in the extreme!
Had a rerun of DS-9 lately, saw a few eps of TNG and Annoyger.....plus a few old movies....time is not exactly kind to one or two episodes and movies....
But they reflected the times when they where made!
Sometimes the fans are just not fans.....more like the Spanish Inquistition
Burn them all on the stake, heretics haha....man talk about crazy!I appreciate all iterations of Trek, but when you watch them today, many suffer from a lot of the problems Discovery's critics have with this new show. Whether it's obvious liberal/progressive messaging (the term "SJW" didn't exist then, but I'm sure it would have been thrown around when Tasha was introduced as the security chief, or when Sisko and Janeway were cast), or changes to alien designs (Klingons, Romulans, pretty much every classic alien race has been redesigned over the years), major retcons (Sybok) and changes to continuity (Borg/Ferengi on ENT)...
Again, we've been through this time and time again, so it blows my mind that these folks are so critical of change, pessimistic of it's chances, and at worst, downright bigoted when it comes to diversity.
Again, we've been through this time and time again, so it blows my mind that these folks are so critical of change, pessimistic of it's chances, and at worst, downright bigoted when it comes to diversity.
Gee - this sounds like fandom back in 1987...just saying.
