How Much Does JJ Abrams Know About Star Trek

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by trekker670, May 6, 2013.

  1. trekker670

    trekker670 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Aug 29, 2008
    Michigan, United States

    IGN did an interview during the Sydney premiere, while most of the clip is rather irrelevent (quizzing Abrams on TOS facts, despite his obvious discomfort as it's tangential to his goal of promoting STID), the last question and several seconds covers the question of "Who invented the Warp drive?" The answer is baffling. Abrams states that Scotty invented it and Spock gave him the technology. In STXI it's clear that Warp drive (and first contact) occurred as seen in the Prime universe and that the technology Spock provides is from the trans-warp beaming.

    My guess is that Abrams used the question just as a lead in to plug STID, but the interviewer stated that he answered correctly. Any idea what's going on here? Are they really trying to say that Scotty invented the warp drive hundreds of years after it happened in the prime universe?
  2. Tosk

    Tosk Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 7, 2001
    On the run.
    I'd say they're both thinking of traswarp beaming...which I now realize JJ just spoiled something for me. Fudge! :mad:
  3. Kruezerman

    Kruezerman Commodore Commodore

    Jun 3, 2012
    Meatloaf with Macaroni and Cheese
    Who cares? That stuff's for us to care about (and maybe the writers), not the guy who makes the movies.
  4. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 17, 2005
    Walking distance from Starfleet HQ
    Screenwriters are the ones who should do that kind of research, where necessary. The director says if he likes the script and shoots it. He's not expected to be an expert in such minutia, especially if it's not germane to the story.
  5. Gojira

    Gojira Commodore Commodore

    Oct 15, 2008
    Stompin' on Tokyo
    I say JJ knows enough about Star Trek to have made 2 good Star Trek movies
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  6. ALF

    ALF Commodore Commodore

    Mar 12, 2005
    Oh, I know this. What is Armageddon and.... and.... oh I give up. What's the other one? It's either Super 8 or Gone Fishin'.

  7. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral Admiral

    Nov 22, 2012
    Melakon's grave
    Hey Cos, I loved your albums, but Armageddon was directed by Michael Bay. Though you got one right.
  8. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jun 15, 2012
    My sig would seem to sum it up.
  9. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral Admiral

    Nov 22, 2012
    Melakon's grave
    All JJ knows about Star Trek is he's made a lot of money off it.
  10. Classic Fan

    Classic Fan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 20, 2003
    Tardis library
    JJ knows enough about Star Trek to make two summer shoot-em-up blockbusters with the Star Trek moniker and characters, just like the latter tng and tos movies to be fair.

    He probably does his research as do the writers, but he's a director. I doubt most directors of previous Trek movies/TV or even Bond movies give a crap about the source or franchise, they just direct.
  11. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Admiral Admiral

    Nov 5, 2008
    King Daniel Beyond
    Enough to have made one very enjoyable Trek movie. Maybe two, I'll find out in 71 hours and 30 minutes.

    He saw all the original series episodes and classic movies prior to making Star Trek. IIRC he said in an interview four or five years ago that he'd never seen Nemesis. That Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto auditioned by reading lines from Prime Directive by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens and Spock's World by Diane Duane suggests he even read a couple of Trek novels. He may not be a fan of classic Trek, but he definitely did some research prior to taking it on.

    He's got a die-hard Trekkie on his staff in writer/producer Bob Orci. He goes so far as to collect and read the novels. Any changes made to Trek in these films are at the very least, informed ones.
  12. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

    Jun 30, 2004
    New Therin Park, Andor (via Australia)
    JJ has told the story that his first exposure to ST was when his Dad took him, as his +1, to the gala world premiere of ST:TMP at the Smithsonian Institute. JJ was just a kid and he was bored silly by the movie only a few years after loving "Star Wars".

    I was 21 when TMP premiered, and I knew random episodes of TOS and TAS. I was at the right stage in my life to fall for the whole ST phenomenon. I met many TOS fans who hated TMP, and many SW fans who preferred SW to ST.

    In recent interviews, JJ gushes about the TOS-related characters. He fell in love with them while making the 2009 film.

    Does he need to know any more than that to direct a ST movie? Certainly he knows more than Stuart Baird did about TNG.
  13. Lt. Cheka Wey

    Lt. Cheka Wey Commander

    Mar 14, 2013
    As primarily a DS 9i fan i like J.J.
  14. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jan 30, 2001
    How much did Nick Meyer or Harve Bennett know about Star Trek when they made The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock?

    Face it, most people behind-the-scenes don't eat, drink, sleep Trek like we do. :shrug:
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    He knows enough.
  16. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Jul 23, 2001
    The next Trek director has to undergo an intense written exam, proving their Trek knowledge with answering questions involving the most obscure aspects of Trek lore and writing 100 word essays on a variety of topics. Like registry number set-up. That's an important one, given how Abrams flagrantly disregarded the standard registry practices. You would't see something like that done on Berman's watch.

    Okay, in all seriousness, I'm more surprised that they gave him credit for the answer being correct (when it totally wasn't) than I am that he doesn't know who Zephram Cochrane is. But then, he also forgot who George Kirk is, and that's from his own movie. The man just has a piss-poor memory, I think.
  17. Ubik

    Ubik Commodore Commodore

    May 21, 2001
    I think where his knowledge is lacking is in understanding what precisely makes Star Trek work. He hears the witty lines, and sees the comeraderie among the characters, and sees the ship firing torpedoes at some bad guys, and he thinks he knows what makes Star Trek tick. He seems to honestly think that Star Trek fans have loved the franchise simply because it was a light, fun action show with witty lines. There are plenty of light, fun action shows with witty lines that are nowhere near as good as Star Trek. Star Trek, when it was very good (much of TOS, TNG, and DS9, Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, First Contact....) was certainly more than an entertaining shoot-em-up action movie. It was occasionally that, sure, but certainly not at its high points.

    I wish he knew less about the look and "feel" of Star Trek, and more about the substance and the ambition and the purpose.
  18. throwback

    throwback Captain Captain

    May 27, 2011
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  19. trevanian

    trevanian Rear Admiral

    Oct 14, 2004
    I don't usually disagree with you, but isn't this akin to the bit on NEMESIS where Baird thought Geordi was an alien?

    If you as director don't understand even the basics, you might be inclined to accept stuff that is less than credible, to the detriment of the story (I use the Abrams09Thing as a reference, from use of black holes to building starships on the ground because the WRITERS think a ship has to have its warp drive set up WITHIN a gravity well!)
  20. Gov Kodos

    Gov Kodos Admiral Admiral

    Mar 23, 2004
    Gov Kodos on Mohammed's Radio, WZVN Boston
    Since his version is the new continuity, he knows everything about it.