How many windows does the Enterprise-D have?

[Rick Sternbach]

At LEAST 14.
I wonder if Rick Sternbach even knows.

Lots and lots. No, I haven't counted them, but I -have- added every one that I could see in the ILM six-footer photos as well as copies of some of the raw castings for the miniature. Some of the window configs from the 1996 Pocket Books blueprints changed for the canceled DeAgostini Ent-D set, but IIRC there weren't too many differences. Oh, and don't forget the Arboretum.

 

[tharpdevenport]

It must suck if you ahve quarters next to a phaser strip, especially a main one. There you are on the Bridge, tempers from the aliens across from you have a reached a boiling point and we hear the commander of that vessel yell, "Target their main forward phaser array!"

And there you are, "Oh, fuck me, my quarters are next to that!"

 

[marsh8472]

Lots and lots. No, I haven't counted them, but I -have- added every one that I could see in the ILM six-footer photos as well as copies of some of the raw castings for the miniature. Some of the window configs from the 1996 Pocket Books blueprints changed for the canceled DeAgostini Ent-D set, but IIRC there weren't too many differences. Oh, and don't forget the Arboretum.

Heyy neat I didn't realize you were on this site. Maybe no one's bothered to count them before. I have been pretty careful and making sure I don't miss any and not to accidentally count a port or something window-like as a window. Whenever I wasn't sure I would refer to other sources like yours and pictures from the show.

I did actually pull up a picture of the enterprise to verify those Arboretum windows were actually windows before counting them.

I'll probably put up all the photoshop files when I'm done so people can peer review it later too

 

[marsh8472]

I ran into an inconsistency here. In the tech manual and the image I've been using the format on the side of shuttle bay 2 and 3 goes like this (2 win) (3 win) (shuttle bay 2) and (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)

But I have not seen it like this in any episode I've looked at and see inconsistencies between models in the episodes and in star trek generations

I see these formats in other blueprints and in episodes
(2 win) (2 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (2 win) (2 win)
(2 win) (4 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)
(2 win) (4 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (4 win) (2 win)

not seeing this anywhere in episodes
(2 win) (3 win) (shuttle bay 2) (shuttle bay 3) (3 win) (2 win)

 

[JesterFace]

Has anyone ever started AND finished counting the windows... I think the answer "many" will do for me.

 

[trekfan39]

The problem with trying to figure this out is the fact that the windows did change from time to time. I'm not sure if they changed going from the 6' model to the 4' but I think some of them did. I do know for sure that ILM did remove some when they redid the model for Generations.

 

[JesterFace]

The problem with trying to figure this out is the fact that the windows did change from time to time. I'm not sure if they changed going from the 6' model to the 4' but I think some of them did. I do know for sure that ILM did remove some when they redid the model for Generations.

Who knows, maybe there's a Trek explanation for this. (not so canon...)
Perhaps there were some upgrades to the ship and things had to move around?

 

[marsh8472]

The problem with trying to figure this out is the fact that the windows did change from time to time. I'm not sure if they changed going from the 6' model to the 4' but I think some of them did. I do know for sure that ILM did remove some when they redid the model for Generations.

Yeah I'd say so too.

There's a whole line of windows along where the shoulder meets the neck but on the right one (took that from either generations or these are the voyages, can't remember) there's only a few.

I was counting on the whitefire blueprints but sometimes when I'm not sure whether something should be counted as a window I look to another source but then run into those consistency issues instead. I'm pretty much done counting them except for the neck part.

He provides a blue print for one side of the ship but not the other. I'm thinking it's because his drawing is showing symmetry and allows us to assume the other side looks the same. If that's the case then I can just multiply by 2 when I get the neck count on the neck side provided.

 

[marsh8472]

figured out a total

bottom part of drive section = 279
part of the shoulder not seen from top view, neck, a couple on the nacelle, a few being hidden by the nacelle on the side view = 349 multiplying by 2 assuming symmetry for the other side = 698
shoulder that's visible from top view and back of neck = 524

Plus the 1736 from the saucer section would make it 3,237 total windows

 

[F. King Daniel]

Why does it need 3,237 windows when it's only supposed to hold 1,000 crew??

 

[tharpdevenport]

It has a compliment of over a little over one thousand, and it can hold many times more than that in an emergency (online sources say 15,000). And not all the windows are necessarily quarters.

 

[marsh8472]

Some quarters have multiple windows too :-)

 

[marsh8472]

It doesn't let me save as images that have the counts on them. But I put the photoshop files that have the counts stored on the images here http://www.filedropper.com/enterprise-dcounts You'd need photoshop in order to open this though.

 

[Forbin]

Why does it need 3,237 windows when it's only supposed to hold 1,000 crew??

What does the number of people have to do with it? Do homes, buildings and apartments only have one window per person? The quarters we've seen have, what, 4 windows in the main room? Is that somehow selfish? Should we have that reduced to just one?
My house has 2 people living in it, and we have 19 windows. I'm the only one of us who uses the room the computer is in, and it has two windows :O - should I seal one up? Our basement has 7 small windows, and we're only down there a little. What a waste! Our living room has 4 windows including the big picture window. Neither of us are even in that room at the moment - damn!!

 

[Kemaiku]

Data's quarters have no windows, it's somewhere in the interior. We see a few others like it or with no external viewport at all, as there are likely a lot more inside the ship that don't, than there are ones against the hull that do.

The Galaxy class has a massive interior volume, many of those windows could be for labs, communal spaces, gardens, bars, etc

I'd be surprised if even half the living quarters of the ship were occupied by a crew member at all.

 

[Shikarnov]

I'd be surprised if even half the living quarters of the ship were occupied by a crew member at all.

That's sort of a pet peeve of mine. Why only 1000 people for such an enormous vessel? If you break it down by deck, by shift, and account for large-group work areas like the bridge and main engineering, it leaves huge portions of the ship completely empty. It also makes you wonder why junior officers have roommates (like Lavelle and Taurik) with so much space available.

 

[Kemaiku]

Bloody typical, spend 300 years yelling about leg room, someone builds you something with plenty to spare, more bitching.

 

[Draculasaurus]

It's full of dolphin tubes and bowling alleys.

 

[woodstock]

All of them?

 

[Nerys Myk]

That's sort of a pet peeve of mine. Why only 1000 people for such an enormous vessel? If you break it down by deck, by shift, and account for large-group work areas like the bridge and main engineering, it leaves huge portions of the ship completely empty. It also makes you wonder why junior officers have roommates (like Lavelle and Taurik) with so much space available.

Teaches them discipline and cooperation.

 

[Forbin]

I seem to recall something said about much of the ship being available for expansion at later dates, back at the beginning. And of course the Whitefire plans show the original idea of a vast communal "mall" area in the saucer. (Not a shopping mall, just a big social area).

 

[Nakita Akita]

I used to have those blueprint maps of the Enterprise D, during my teen years. I had never though to count the windows when I had those. That is a lot of windows and I would have lost count (if the phone rang or my Mom was calling for my name).

I have some of the blue prints
I love them!