How long?

[darkshadow0001]

So how long can they go with the re-creation of TOS before they run into the original show? I realize this is some sort of "reboot" but still there is only so much they can do before they coincide with stories told by TOS. Are they only doing this perhaps to revamp the franchise again? Or just keep going as if TOS never really existed.

(If this film is a success anyways )

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I think events in the next film (or the next after that) can run concurrently with a TOS timeline. I personally have no problem with that.

Or possibly the sequels (or at least STXIII) can take place immediately after the third season of TOS.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

So how long can they go with the re-creation of TOS before they run into the original show?

I don't think they've planned that far ahead, yet.

 

[ST-One]

17 cm... oh... wait...

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Considering how bottled many TOS episodes were, all they have to do with this movie or a sequel is not kill Kirk or blow up the Enterprise or anything else too demonstrative, and they're home free to do whatever they want without "violating" continuity.

 

[T'Cal]

I like the idea of this taking place before TOS with STXII and STXIII taking place during the 4th and 5th years of the original five year mission.

Chronologically, it would be:
ENT series
STXI
TOS series
STXII - STXIII
TMP - TUC
TNG - VOY series
GEN - NEM
Titan series

 

[PKTrekGirl]

I don't worry about it. If it ever conflicts too much with TOS, I'll just consider it to be an alternative timeline.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

So how long can they go with the re-creation of TOS before they run into the original show?

Ten to twelve years before the current actors start to look the same age as the originals when TOS started. But if they manage to be a success that long, they can bleed right into the TOS timeline and nobody will worry about it. Obviously they will be doing something right to get that far.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

^
^^In ten to twelve years, they will all look (and be) too old to play their TOS characters. I think they will start looking their TOS ages in about three to five years (on average).

Pegg already looks TOS Scotty's age; Urban is getting close to looking his character's TOS age, and so is Zoe Saldana.

Quinto is probably the closest. He will look -- and actually BE -- Nimoy's TOS age in less than 5 years (Quinto is 31, Nimoy was 35 when he made WNMHGB).

Pine and John Cho are a bit of a problem, since both have baby faces (even though Cho is actually OLDER than TOS Takei). Pine is only about six or seven years younger than TOS Shatner.

Anton Yelchin is a lot younger looking than Koenig, but at least his character LOOKS the age he is supposed to be (Koenig didn't look 22 in Who Mourns for Adonais when he stated he was that age). At least in Yelchin's case, I will believe he is his stated age.

 

[darkshadow0001]

Titan series

Uh, what's "Titan Series"? Is it something in the works?

 

[T'Cal]

Titan series

Uh, what's "Titan Series"? Is it something in the works?

You caught that, huh? Just wishful thinking...

 

[Nardpuncher]

I figured that since they are apparently on the Enterprise at the end or whatever...then doesn't this movie come within months of the first episode of TOS? I don't know so please enlighten me.

 

[Bill Morris]

Maybe, if it is a hit, for the next movie they will decide to recruit a whole new (cheaper) cast and move on to the late 24th or early 25th century, or [wishful_fanboy_thinking]give us a new, high-quality post-NEM TV series[/wishful_fanboy_thinking].

 

[M'Sharak]

I figured that since they are apparently on the Enterprise at the end or whatever...then doesn't this movie come within months of the first episode of TOS? I don't know so please enlighten me.

I don't think anyone outside of Team Abrams (and perhaps Kevin Smith and a few Paramount execs) knows for sure. All we know is that a significant portion of the movie is set during a time-frame prior to the events of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and that more than one time period will be seen. That's it, really. We don't know how close to or how far from the "earliest" Original Series ep the movie will leave off.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

^
^^Back in April, trekmovie.com posted a transcript from an interview that Nichelle Nichols had with jonja.net regarding her visit to the set, the recasting of her character, and Zoe Saldana.
In the interview, Nichols said (possible spoilers...):

From Nichelle Nichols
…This was a prequel, the months before, the time before, and ends with our going off on that five year mission where no man or woman has gone before...

(emphasis mine)

I'll grant you that Nichelle Nichols isn't part of the production team and I'm sure she doesn't know everything about the plot of the film; however, she was on the set during some filming and does know something about the film. Maybe she was just spectulating...I don't know.

Here is the rest of the trekmovie.com article from April (may contain spoilers):
http://trekmovie.com/2008/04/29/nichols-and-saldana-talk-about-uhura-in-new-star-trek/

 

[gastrof]

I figured that since they are apparently on the Enterprise at the end or whatever...then doesn't this movie come within months of the first episode of TOS? I don't know so please enlighten me.

If the uniforms reported to be in that closing scene tell us anything, the movie will show us at least a moment DURING the TOS era.

Since there are several different points in Kirk's life being depicted, we may not see the WNMHGB period or uniforms, but jump right over that.

I agree with what someone said above. Any further movies could take place during the TOS era and not violate the continuity of the stories at all.

To what extent they violate continuity with respect to how things LOOK remains to be seen...

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

...To what extent they violate continuity with respect to how things LOOK remains to be seen...

This film is only based on the original Star Trek TV series...it doesn't need to look exactly like the series (just like any other film that's based on prior material.)

Changing the look is not violating continuity of TOS, since this isn't TOS; it's a totally separate film that uses the familiar TOS characters and setting. It reportedly respects the continuity of the important things -- and those are the familiar characters' personality traits and the 'historical' facts.

 

[T'Cal]

Maybe, if it is a hit, for the next movie they will decide to recruit a whole new (cheaper) cast and move on to the late 24th or early 25th century, or [wishful_fanboy_thinking]give us a new, high-quality post-NEM TV series[/wishful_fanboy_thinking].

What he said!

 

[darkshadow0001]

I figured that since they are apparently on the Enterprise at the end or whatever...then doesn't this movie come within months of the first episode of TOS? I don't know so please enlighten me.

I don't know. Are they keeping the canon of Pike having the Enterprise before Kirk? Because I'm not sure exactly what years Pike had the Enterprise and when Kirk was in Starfleet. I'm sure they are probably gonna change things a bit, a lot of discontinuity is abound in Star Trek. Well, I guess according to The Menegerie (sp?) Pike was set off into a distant world to live the rest of his days before Kirk took command. It's never been fully established in TOS when Kirk exactly got the Enterprise, I think. I haven't watched every episode of TOS yet. Seen most of them, but not all. I have seen The Cage, but was Kirk in that episode or did he not appear until "The Man Trap"?

 

[Kelso]

Spock served with Pike for 13 years. After that, Kirk took over command of the Enterprise from Pike. All of this happened prior to Kirk's first appearance in "Where no man has gone before".