How long "SHOULD" it have taken Carters Wonder Woman to win War II?

[Sindatur]

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Pssst! Hey... Guy... Checkout Markie Post as Electrawoman. Yowsa!

Confused? Deidre Hall played her

OMG, I checked IMDB and they did a 15 minute pilot in 2001 for a new version, apparently very different. I had never heard of this, LOL, I need to check this out some time, LOL

 

[sojourner]

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It's HOT.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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John Ritter has been hammering into me for the last three days that she's the most beautiful woman in the world.

I don't see it.

Hell, I just only noticed that one of his annoying TV children is Clark Duke from Greek.

 

[CaptMurdock]

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I think dooms response should have been "Well, sure, anyone could have done that, but what I do, takes style."

DOOM: Any fool can destroy a skyscraper. Try launching one, intact, into orbit.

FTW!

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As far as WWII, the Marvel U. has the justification that Captain America (and his various imitators) were basically nonsuperpowered crimefighter types and couldn't do much more than the ordinary soldier. Eventually, a few supers (e.g. Human Torch, Sub-Mariner, Whizzer and the Liberty Legion) joined the fight, but by then the Nazis had their own metahumans.

9/11... as terrible as that was in our world, it was practically a once-a-month occurrence in the MU. I remember a hilarious exchange in the letters column one time that amounted to "How could Spider-Man fight the Green Goblin in Yankee Stadium last issue if it got destroyed by Iron Man and Crimson Dynamo last month?" "Uhhhh... well, Reed Richards had some extra time on his hands, and so he ... No?"

 

[Forbin]

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Heck Avengers Tower got destroyed two different ways in two different Avengers titles in the same month!

 

[Guy Gardener]

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there's a third season time travel episode which situates that Diana is still alive in the 23rd century.

I still remember the 16 million that died when Genosha was bombed.

Those imaginary numbers marginalize the very real holocaust.

How come there's less than 200 Mutants alive but even Magneto does't think that Magneto was right?

 

[Nerys Myk]

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the Spear of destiny just cancelled super powers for a few thousand miles in every direction.

You could send Superman against Hitler, but unless it's a heat vision attack from orbit, which is dangerous if the spear makes him mortal, when he's playing at spaceman with out a space suit, you're really just sending another ordinary Kansas farmboy to save the world.

Oh.

In season two in the 70s, Diana killed Hitler's clone without a fleck of doubt or reservation.

The Spear's trick was it made any super-powered person in its range into an Axis supporter. It's range as anywhere the Axis held sway. So once Superman entered mainland Europe or Eastern Asia he would switch allegiances.

Not sure the Superman of the 40s could survive in space.

 

[Zaku]

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Now I remember! In the MU Hitler was killed by the Human Torch!

 

[Guy Gardener]

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I recall a super villain team up where Hitler's brain escaped WWII into modern times (the 70s?) and was living in one of Arnim Zola's clones as the Hatemonger working alongside the Red Skull until hitler made a powerplay and the Skull trapped his soul in an empty Cosmic Cube amd then the Skull is all melencholly about how/why Hitler had tried to diddle when when he really in fact loved Adolf like a brother and would have sacrificed anything for Hitler if he had just asked instead of trying to play him.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

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Not sure the Superman of the 40s could survive in space.

Now that you mention it, how does he keep his superpowers when he's distant from our Sun or other yellow stars, which are the source of those powers - at least in later versions of the stories where native Kryptonians were not all supermen?

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Solar energy retention.

Final Night says that he down powers slowly over the course of about 5 days, which is coincidently how long it takes all life on earth to die without the sun keeping the place warm.

Aliens Vs Superman which came out at almost the same time, used a Much faster timeline.

Red suns don't do much, yellow suns make him quite powerfull, even younger suns must do fabulous things... Overpowering Clark is bad, he can pop if he's got too much solar energy.

I remember in a Byrne Superman comic that he went up against some solar powered villain he turned fetal with a shadow, and he's saying to himself "it's a good thing I've been on earth for years and I'm not weakened by a lack of sunlight so quickly."

 

[Zaku]

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I recall a super villain team up where Hitler's brain escaped WWII into modern times (the 70s?) and was living in one of Arnim Zola's clones as the Hatemonger working alongside the Red Skull until hitler made a powerplay and the Skull trapped his soul in an empty Cosmic Cube amd then the Skull is all melencholly about how/why Hitler had tried to diddle when when he really in fact loved Adolf like a brother and would have sacrificed anything for Hitler if he had just asked instead of trying to play him.

Here a brief summary of the life of MU Hitler

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hitlerad.htm

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

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Solar energy retention.

Final Night says that he down powers slowly over the course of about 5 days, which is coincidently how long it takes all life on earth to die without the sun keeping the place warm.

Aliens Vs Superman which came out at almost the same time, used a Much faster timeline.

Red suns don't do much, yellow suns make him quite powerfull, even younger suns must do fabulous things... Overpowering Clark is bad, he can pop if he's got too much solar energy.

I remember in a Byrne Superman comic that he went up against some solar powered villain he turned fetal with a shadow, and he's saying to himself "it's a good thing I've been on earth for years and I'm not weakened by a lack of sunlight so quickly."

So Supes is somewhat similar to a rechargeable Energizer Bunny? I'm cool with that. I'm now wondering what Superman popcorn tastes like.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Some sort of residue akin to dandruff when he heat visions stuff?

Clark must seriously douse villains in his DNA when he uses his super breath to save the day.

 

[Mike Farley]

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How come there's less than 200 Mutants alive but even Magneto does't think that Magneto was right?

Because it wasn't the normal humans that did homo sapiens superior in, but rather his own mutant daughter?

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Oh.

Oh.

Oh.

The elders of the Universe.

If you are the last of your species, you become very immortal and quite cosmically powerful.

At this point, some of the mutants, with avengers security clearance enough to read about these "entities" if they haven't had first hand experience (Beast!), have to be wondering if humans and mutants are so different that the last mutant could become an elder of the universe despite 6 billion human beings still fluffing about.

I mean if one of these mutants wanted the power to wipe out man, all he or she would have to do first is wipe out the last of the mutants and the cosmic scales would runneth over.

 

[hyzmarca]

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Guess what I been up all night doing?

I thought I was watching a cartoon until Wonder Woman said "Concentration Camps" in that episode where earth is being judged by Buck Roger's Boss, which is when I really began to notice how this Amazon was procrastinating and aimless while the Nazis carried on putting the trains on schedule.

Diana has an invisible, probably radar invisible too, plane, bulletproofability, the strength of 20 men and a noose that can compel truth.

"Sigh"

Half way into the pilot Wonder Woman should have made Adolph her bitch, but then what would the TV show be about if WWII resolved itself in 1942 well before Truman dropped those bombs?

One woman with an invisible airplane can't really do much (and besides, you can see her flying in it). It doesn't have the payload capacity for an effective bombing run.

Note that simply killing Hitler wouldn't end the war. If anything, it might make the war worse, as Hitler made some strategic blunders. Unconditional surrender is right out. At best you'd get a leader willing to negotiate a truce if you killed your way down the succession list. Unfortunately, that would require the allies to be willing to accept terms that are favorable to Germany, which is highly unlikely.

The end result is that the war is going to continue until one side can't fight anymore, no matter who is leading them.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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You can do two things with that lasso if you had unlimited access to Adolf Hitler...

Hang him, or make him tell the truth.

If the German people were told about the concentration camps in 1942, the two starkest possible outcomes are that they say "They're only Jews, who cares" and muddle on, or say "Fuck this." and then force a popular uprising that includes 99 percent of the military.

I can't imagine Diana arming her invisible plane, but it got her into Germany in season one with no one being the wiser, so in all likelihood the see-through bugger can do it again.

 

[hyzmarca]

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You can do two things with that lasso if you had unlimited access to Adolf Hitler...

Hang him, or make him tell the truth.

If the German people were told about the concentration camps in 1942, the two starkest possible outcomes are that they say "They're only Jews, who cares" and muddle on, or say "Fuck this." and then force a popular uprising that includes 99 percent of the military.

They might overthrow the nazis. Might being the key word. Their actions are appalling but Germany is riding high in 1942. A popular uprising, however, does absolutely nothing to end the war. It just means that the new non-Nazi government has to continue fighting the allies.

 

[Guy Gardener]

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Congress stopped Viet Nam by refusing to pay for it.

A collapse of the German government in 1942 would put the war machine in a difficult place that even if they started looting, they wouldn't have the mechanisms to properly distribute such atypical cash to "all" the soldiers who needed folding to justify giving a damn... If they don't pay you, are you allowed to desert?

According to Zhan, the Empire had a bundle of fight left in it after Palpatine bought the farm.