Not really definitive, considering that characters general ignorance and low intelligence.
How long do Vulcans live for?
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Not really definitive, considering that characters general ignorance and low intelligence.
In Reunification Data states that Pardak has served in the Romulan senate for 9 decades, implying that they too have long life spans.
Given he was talking to a Vulcan who didn't dispute the statement, we can conclude there is some accuracy to it.
Good catch! I'd forgotten that.
This is an issue I raised with my friend one day watching DS9, when we realized how few Vulcan admirals we'd seen (like, what, one?). You'd think Starfleet would be absolutely top-heavy, with Vulcans in for ninety years already and just getting started.
I imagine Vulcan flag officers would be rather long-careered, if the Vulcans have the ambition to become flag officers.
I'm trying to thing of Vulcan flag officers. I remember Admiral Savar from TNG's 'Conspiracy.' And later Admiral Sitak from DS9 has a ship named after her... while she's still alive and in service! She possibly then had a very long career. I think the balancing factor would be that Vulcans aren't particularly ambitious - ninety percent of them might be content as career commanders.
I'm trying to thing of Vulcan flag officers. I remember Admiral Savar from TNG's 'Conspiracy.' And later Admiral Sitak from DS9 has a ship named after her... while she's still alive and in service! She possibly then had a very long career. I think the balancing factor would be that Vulcans aren't particularly ambitious - ninety percent of them might be content as career commanders.
or they might just be the intellectual puppets of the Federation!
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Savar didn't seem to have the nerve pinch quite down pat - perhaps he was only partially Vulcan?
Vulcan naming practices are unknown. It doesn't sound likely that there could only be one Sitak at a time, let alone through all of Vulcan history, but that's possible, I guess. Certainly it is known that some Vulcans (such as Spock) have more than one name, and that alien wives to Vulcans (such as Amanda, fanonically née Grayson) get a "Vulcan name", thus perhaps (but not necessarily) a surname.
I'd think that long-lived species would simply choose to have multiple careers; they'd get bored with being Admirals after a short while, and would move on to something else. 24th century humans probably do quite a bit of that, too.
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Isn't it the case that many Vulcans chose to take extended leaves of absence from Starfleet? (for example Tuvok's 50 years).
Could that affect how many Vulcan admirals there are?
Could that affect how many Vulcan admirals there are?
Well, if 1.5=many...
That is, the only other known case of a Vulcan taking a leave would be Spock between TOS and TMP, and he wasn't all Vulcan...
We really have too small a statistic sample to establish basically anything about Vulcans. Of the five we saw up close, Spock was a freak, Sarek was an alien-marrying pervert, and Soval and T'Pol were filthy emotionalist melders in secret. That leaves just Tuvok for a "Vulcan standard" specimen who wasn't considered an outcast by his own people AFAWK.
Timo Saloniemi
That is, the only other known case of a Vulcan taking a leave would be Spock between TOS and TMP, and he wasn't all Vulcan...
We really have too small a statistic sample to establish basically anything about Vulcans. Of the five we saw up close, Spock was a freak, Sarek was an alien-marrying pervert, and Soval and T'Pol were filthy emotionalist melders in secret. That leaves just Tuvok for a "Vulcan standard" specimen who wasn't considered an outcast by his own people AFAWK.
Timo Saloniemi
I always blamed that on the bluefin controlling his mind...
Conceded, but I'm relatively sure the production intended the Sitak to reference the same Admiral we'd just seen in the previous episode.
FWIW, regarding Vulcan names, the Enterprise Officers Manual by Drexler and Mandel lists 'Spock' as 'Spock, XTMPRSZNTWLFD' where Kirk is listed as 'Kirk, James Tiberius' and goes on to state that:
So I suppose Spock's 'full' name is 'Xtmprszntwlfd Sareku Spock'?
That makes sense.
This is one of the only threads on this subject I found on google, so I thought I would sign up and clarify a little here:
"As for the Remans, an article on Memory Beta lists a short story on them that explains it as exposure to a form of bacteria/virus that mutates them quite quickly during their early years on Remus."
"I dislike the virus explanation since a virus would, unless I'm deeply mistaken, be unlikely to have evolved the means to hook onto and inject its genetic code into the cells of a lifeform that didn't come from the planet it did."
As far as the Remans are concerned, I just finished the Vulcan's Soul trilogy where the quote from Memory Beta comes from. It is not a virus or bacteria that transforms the Vulcans into Remans, but a small radioactive amoeba like symbiotic lifeform, the size of a fist, that the scientists use to help genetically modify the Vulcans into a new race of Remans. Another, secondary factor that altered the Vulcans physiology and genetics into Remans was the high radiation levels on the planet Remus itself.
They also mentioned in that trilogy that Remans had shorter lifespans due to their exposure to high radiation levels from the dilithium mines of Remus.
"As for the Remans, an article on Memory Beta lists a short story on them that explains it as exposure to a form of bacteria/virus that mutates them quite quickly during their early years on Remus."
"I dislike the virus explanation since a virus would, unless I'm deeply mistaken, be unlikely to have evolved the means to hook onto and inject its genetic code into the cells of a lifeform that didn't come from the planet it did."
As far as the Remans are concerned, I just finished the Vulcan's Soul trilogy where the quote from Memory Beta comes from. It is not a virus or bacteria that transforms the Vulcans into Remans, but a small radioactive amoeba like symbiotic lifeform, the size of a fist, that the scientists use to help genetically modify the Vulcans into a new race of Remans. Another, secondary factor that altered the Vulcans physiology and genetics into Remans was the high radiation levels on the planet Remus itself.
They also mentioned in that trilogy that Remans had shorter lifespans due to their exposure to high radiation levels from the dilithium mines of Remus.
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