How do you want the regeneration limit dealt with?
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Not just "for you". It's for "reality". For "the universe". Because it's a fact. I know there are a lot of kids here who like to interject their personal pet fantasies about Doctor Who in the mix, in an attempt to legitimize their private scifi fetish. Allyn likes to lump ALL alternate media in with Who. Bones, if given the chance, will ignore 90% of the RTD era. Sci believes he created Doctor Who, and thus feels he can arbitrarily create rules about it out of thin air. EJA can't come to grips over, what he believes, is some kind of discontinuity in the modern era of Who. And Kelso just likes to stir up trouble, mostly. I'm quite certain there are others out there with even wilder accusations about the show. These people create these tributaries from reality to satisfy some deeply personal issues they believe should apply to the world around them. It's kind of like the hard-core Christian Right and their need to shove their opinions and beliefs on the populace of the world. They sincerely believe their way is Right, and the entire world is wrong.
In the end, everyone can debate and argue and whatever. But, facts are facts, and reality states that it's all one show. So, let them have their various opinions. It won't change a single thing, and it helps them sleep at night...
^ Hey, quit stirring up trouble. 
It can toast bread, but only one side of it. It's kinda useless because of that.
Turn it over, then...reverse the polarity!
back on topic, the writers and producers have done a masterful job touching on almost every other part of the lore. Why ignore this part?
Only the good parts. 
Spooky, isn't it?
Spooky, isn't it?
Well, I browsed this thread and was appalled that people find the show entertaining... but the lore dull.
What!? WHAT!?
The lore is where I started. I remember being confused when I heard it. A man changes his face every so often and becomes an 18th Century Time Traveler known as a Doctor? (Yeah, I know, thats what I THOUGHT when I first saw the TV Movie. I know it's not really lore, but regeneration is typically where most fans start now a days, so give me a break.)
I understand the lore being confusing, but silly? It's brilliant! All of it. Everything that was ever added to it is just absolutely genius. If the writers intended to keep the story going for almost forever, then they have succeeded. Why dissmiss this as a bad thing?
The limitation on the regeneration was also a good addition. It gave back that the Doctor has a sense of mortallity, but the focus of the newer seasons has been more on that the Doctor could be killed before regeneration rendering the purpose of the regeneration limit unnecessary. That's not fact, that's opinion, btw. And anyone who didn't think that the Doctor would have more than 13 lives is a little bit naive. Of course they're going to give him more regenerations. This had been hinted at all the way back during The Five Doctors.
But to completely disregard a good opportunity to expand the lore is an opportunity well missed and I can't see any good writer tossing it aside and saying, "Nah, this isn't worth writing about."
Besides, we got ample opportunity to go over regenerations in the 50th Anniversary. That's my bet on why they're avoiding the issue at the moment.
Also, in regards to RTD's off handed line about 507 regenerations, it was suppose to be a joke. But he told it very badly.
What!? WHAT!?
The lore is where I started. I remember being confused when I heard it. A man changes his face every so often and becomes an 18th Century Time Traveler known as a Doctor? (Yeah, I know, thats what I THOUGHT when I first saw the TV Movie. I know it's not really lore, but regeneration is typically where most fans start now a days, so give me a break.)I understand the lore being confusing, but silly? It's brilliant! All of it. Everything that was ever added to it is just absolutely genius. If the writers intended to keep the story going for almost forever, then they have succeeded. Why dissmiss this as a bad thing?
The limitation on the regeneration was also a good addition. It gave back that the Doctor has a sense of mortallity, but the focus of the newer seasons has been more on that the Doctor could be killed before regeneration rendering the purpose of the regeneration limit unnecessary. That's not fact, that's opinion, btw.
And anyone who didn't think that the Doctor would have more than 13 lives is a little bit naive. Of course they're going to give him more regenerations. This had been hinted at all the way back during The Five Doctors. But to completely disregard a good opportunity to expand the lore is an opportunity well missed and I can't see any good writer tossing it aside and saying, "Nah, this isn't worth writing about."
Besides, we got ample opportunity to go over regenerations in the 50th Anniversary. That's my bet on why they're avoiding the issue at the moment.
Also, in regards to RTD's off handed line about 507 regenerations, it was suppose to be a joke. But he told it very badly.
I've been a fan of Doctor Who since they showed Tom Baker in the US in the late 1970s, like both the old and new series, and think of the new one as a continuation of the old one.
I voted for the "glib line" one because that's all I'd find necessary. I wouldn't object to a story dealing with extending regenerations, I'd find it interesting, but it doesn't have to be that for me. The limit is, though, something that was a part of the old series, and I'd prefer it to be acknowledged rather than ignored. If some old companion meets the 14th Doctor, asks "Didn't you say once that you could only regenerate 12 times?", and the Doctor says that that was altered during the Time War, that would be sufficient for me.
I voted for the "glib line" one because that's all I'd find necessary. I wouldn't object to a story dealing with extending regenerations, I'd find it interesting, but it doesn't have to be that for me. The limit is, though, something that was a part of the old series, and I'd prefer it to be acknowledged rather than ignored. If some old companion meets the 14th Doctor, asks "Didn't you say once that you could only regenerate 12 times?", and the Doctor says that that was altered during the Time War, that would be sufficient for me.
I think they should end it with the death of the 13th Doctor. Nothing against that character, but they shouldn't make him immortal.
Well turn Left made it apparent that he isn't really immortal since he can die before regenerating.
Been watching this chat for awhile...Personally, I'm comfortable with the idea that the 12 regeneration limit was imposed by the Time Lords and has now been lost...however, i also think it should be dealt with further...Say with the idea that there is, in fact, a good reason for the limit...and a believable one. For example, I should think that by regeneration 507, a Time Lord would be quite out of his mind. So, let's have a story where the Doctor peers into his own future...he meets Doctor 508 and finds that Doctor 508 is completely out of his mind, and that it all began after his 12th regeneration. is that really a future the Doctor wishes for himself?
Dear god, RTD, look what you've wrought.
Can we please ignore anything RTD or the Sarah Jane Dull-ventures says at this point?
And that includes "I don't want to go!" You're not going anywhere, genius, don't you remember saying "SAME man, new face"?
le sigh.
Perhaps he keeps saying "Silence will fall" in a creepy, raspy voice and River Song has to kill him.
No. RTD made DW watchable without giggling and wincing...at least not all the time.
Sorry, one of my absolute favorite DW moments. I'll throw decades of nonsense about regeneration under the bus in an instant for a moment of real emotional power, and that was one.