How Do Social Conservative Star Fans Enjoy Star Trek?

[Amaris]

I don't know... slaughtering a teenager over not getting a party invite. My ego's as fragile as anyone's, but even I think that's a bit extreme. Better to just crash the party, glom all the popcorn shrimp, smash the punch bowl, make a few random nobles' clothes disappear, then scamper out the door cackling madly.

No taking a dump in the punch bowl? Uncultured swine.

 

[Oddish]

No taking a dump in the punch bowl? Uncultured swine.

She gets her crows to handle the random acts of elimination. Birds poop far more often than humans, after all.

 

[Amaris]

She gets her crows to handle the random acts of elimination. Birds poop far more often than humans, after all.

This is a reasonable position.

 

[Oddish]

This is a reasonable position.

Well, I am a moderate.

 

[Farscape One]

That is a great one. This is my favorite:

KIRK: All right. It's instinctive. But the instinct can be fought. We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands, but we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes. Knowing that we won't kill today. Contact Vendikar. I think you'll find that they're just as terrified, appalled, horrified as you are, that they'll do anything to avoid the alternative I've given you. Peace or utter destruction. It's up to you.

One of my favorites, too. In fact, my wife and I were watching "A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON" last night. She really liked that one.

 

[Lynx]

What on Earth makes you think the casting of diverse actors has anything to do with doom-and-gloom scenarios?



In what way??



It happens because you won't explain how having non-white actors hampers storytelling!

There you go again!
Twisting my words around and making them look worse than it really was!

I haven't written anything about "how having non-white actors hampers storytelling" because they don't. Not if they are written like Sisko, LaForge, Sulu, Uhura, Kim, Chakotay or whatsoever.
As for Chakotay, he's one of my absolute favorites and the only thing I have complained about is that they didn't give him a real tribe instead of that made-up one in the series.

And I haven't written anything about "the casting of diverse actors has anything to do with doom-and-gloom scenarios".

This is becoming like some NKVD trial when some poor accused is arrested for happening to be sitting in the same café as a suspected spy who probably is innocent too.

It isn't about non-white characters as such, it's about how it's over-done in too many series, how writers and producers are twisting themselves inside-out to be as PC as possible which complicates the storytelling and makes it suck.

Here is what I recently wrote about what I dislike with current movies and series. As you can see, it has nothing to do with race as such, more about how current doom-and-gloom and political correctness makes what could have been interesting movies, series and books boring:

From an earlier post in this thread:
Yes, and it was about a future in which our current squabbles were solved a long time ago.

Plus that everything wasn't as political correct as it is today and people weren't so easily offended.

Back then, they could come up with characters who were created to be something in a series, characters with special roles which made them fit into the concept for the series, no matter how they looked and were. No matter if it was five white characters or five black characters as long as we got a good show.

Now it is so restricted. There must be a character who looks like this, a characters who look like that, a character who is this and a character who is that and a character who has this or that opinion, political view, sexual orientation, skin color, heritage, addiction etc.... Otherwise someone might become offended!

The writers are so tangled up in all that PC crap that it actually hampers the storytelling and we get all those episodes where nothing is happening but a deep dive in one of the main characters's messed up private life and people are bored to death in front of the TV.

It's ridiculous!

Just like bl***y Spice Girls if you remember them. "We're gonna have a bunch of attractive singing girls. There will be one blond girl, one red-haired girl, one dark haired girl, one Afro-British girl and one girl who actually can sing. Then we give them some commercial bland songs which they can perform."

No surprise that they disappeared after a few years and no one remember them.

And no surprise that the last series I followed with great interest was NCIS. Now I don't watch any series anymore.

It's also a reason why I'm planning to write a Star Trek story in which all my favorite characters are Iron Maiden fans! That will be my version of political correctness, or at least musical correctness.

From a post in another thread:
Most of the difference is in the special effects with blood splattering and slow motion detailed torture scenes.

Not to mention the bad stories and bad acting.

I want good stories where I have to think to try to figure out what's wrong, who's the bad guy and such, not overkill of explosions and effects, blood splattering, political correctness and the constant doom-an-gloom.

I mean, back in the days we had movies, series and books about space exploration and a bright future ahead. Now we have movies, series and books where "space exploration" is about getting away from a destroyed Earth to some gloomy future without real hope. OK, that's not exactly for Star Trek but even Star Trek has been affected by current doom-and-gloom.

Back in the days we had series like CSI and NCIS with action, good characters and even some humor. Now we have series with lousy characters, blood splattering torture scenes, a lot of doom-and-gloom and a dark future and downright boring characters and lousy stories. The same for books and movies.

All that in a decade in which the music sucks, the movies, TV series and books sucks and too many people are utterly convinced about everything is gonna go straight to hell.

Got it?

 

[Lynx]

In general, I think that historical figures should be cast looking about like they should. The days of whitewashing are over (mostly... looking at you, Johnny Depp), but that doesn't mean we should go the other way.

Regarding book characters, I think it's a little more flexible... if possible, the writer might give their opinion. For instance, Phillip Pullman gushed over blond-haired Mrs. Coulter, and JK Rowling loved black Hermione, though those characters as written looked different.

Exactly my point too!

 

[Michael]

… writers and producers are twisting themselves inside-out to be as PC as possible which complicates the storytelling and makes it suck.

You repeatedly claim this but have yet to explain just how this works in your mind. How does the writers and producers writing content and casting characters that are “as PC as possible” complicate the storytelling? And why does it “make it suck”?

 

[Nyotarules]

Question - How do social conservative star fans enjoy star trek?
Answer - The same as everyone else, with a cup of tea and a biscuit!

Since we have gone way off track, this thread is well and truly done.