how do people feel about robert orci and Kurtzmen returning?

[SeerSGB]

Because anything to do with genetic engineering has been banned on Earth since 1996?

Good point--and one I had forgot about. The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments and the science behind them.

What? That blood brought a tribble back to life.

Blood is a key element in the healing process, even in normal humans.

1) Khan has remarkable recuperative abilities. They say so in "Space Seed". He brings himself back from near death.

KIRK: Bones?
MCCOY: He'll live.
KIRK: My compliments.
MCCOY: No, I'm good, but not that good. There's something inside this man that refuses to accept death. Look at that. Even as he is now, his heart valve action has twice the power of yours and mine. Lung efficiency is fifty percent better.
(McGivers enters)
KIRK: An improved breed of human. That's what the Eugenics War was all about.
MCCOY: I'd estimate he could lift us both with one arm. It will be interesting to see if his brain matches his body.

2) The little girl in act one is saved by Khan's blood.

3) The tribble is brought back to life by Khan's blood.

Connect the dots.

Good point. Wonder why Beverly, Phlox, Bashir and The Doctor never used it?

Cause they've got their magic one shot cures. "Oh you have some super alien virus that is completely rewriting your DNA! the ships is doomed!! *40 minutes and a mouthful of technobabble later* ~hsssss~ There all better."

 

[Set Harth]

The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments

Well, can you really blame them?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because anything to do with genetic engineering has been banned on Earth since 1996?

Good point--and one I had forgot about. The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments and the science behind them.

Blood is a key element in the healing process, even in normal humans.

1) Khan has remarkable recuperative abilities. They say so in "Space Seed". He brings himself back from near death.





2) The little girl in act one is saved by Khan's blood.

3) The tribble is brought back to life by Khan's blood.

Connect the dots.

Good point. Wonder why Beverly, Phlox, Bashir and The Doctor never used it?

Cause they've got their magic one shot cures. "Oh you have some super alien virus that is completely rewriting your DNA! the ships is doomed!! *40 minutes and a mouthful of technobabble later* ~hsssss~ There all better."

All based on Augment blood (Shhhhh, don't tell anybody)

 

[Yanks]

Because anything to do with genetic engineering has been banned on Earth since 1996?

Good point--and one I had forgot about. The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments and the science behind them.

Blood is a key element in the healing process, even in normal humans.

1) Khan has remarkable recuperative abilities. They say so in "Space Seed". He brings himself back from near death.





2) The little girl in act one is saved by Khan's blood.

3) The tribble is brought back to life by Khan's blood.

Connect the dots.

Good point. Wonder why Beverly, Phlox, Bashir and The Doctor never used it?

Cause they've got their magic one shot cures. "Oh you have some super alien virus that is completely rewriting your DNA! the ships is doomed!! *40 minutes and a mouthful of technobabble later* ~hsssss~ There all better."

Yeah true... I'm glad I had this little chat. The Khan blood thing doesn't bother me so much any more.

 

[Yanks]

I'm allowing "Khan bleed over"

 

[SeerSGB]

The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments

Well, can you really blame them?

Sort of shoots that whole "enlightened humanity" concept full of holes, eh?

 

[C.E. Evans]

The Federation (Earth especially) seems paranoid as fuck when it comes to augments

Well, can you really blame them?

Sort of shoots that whole "enlightened humanity" concept full of holes, eh?

Enlightened doesn't mean stupid, IMO. I think Earth's zero tolerance towards genetic augmentation stems from it being proved extremely dangerous more than once (Khan may not have been the only--nor the last--Augment who tried to take over the world).

 

[SeerSGB]

Well, can you really blame them?

Sort of shoots that whole "enlightened humanity" concept full of holes, eh?

Enlightened doesn't mean stupid, IMO. I think Earth's zero tolerance towards genetic augmentation stems from it being proved extremely dangerous more than once (Khan may not have been the only--nor the last--Augment who tried to take over the world).

There's a difference between banning the creation of Augments/Super Humans and a total ban on genetic research and modification like we see on Earth/in the Federation. It's bigoted paranoia and short sighted.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Sort of shoots that whole "enlightened humanity" concept full of holes, eh?

Enlightened doesn't mean stupid, IMO. I think Earth's zero tolerance towards genetic augmentation stems from it being proved extremely dangerous more than once (Khan may not have been the only--nor the last--Augment who tried to take over the world).

There's a difference between banning the creation of Augments/Super Humans and a total ban on genetic research and modification like we see on Earth/in the Federation. It's bigoted paranoia and short sighted.

Not if it has a proven track record of always producing world-dominating tyrants.

 

[SeerSGB]

Enlightened doesn't mean stupid, IMO. I think Earth's zero tolerance towards genetic augmentation stems from it being proved extremely dangerous more than once (Khan may not have been the only--nor the last--Augment who tried to take over the world).

There's a difference between banning the creation of Augments/Super Humans and a total ban on genetic research and modification like we see on Earth/in the Federation. It's bigoted paranoia and short sighted.

Not if it has a proven track record of always producing world-dominating tyrants.

Again: You're tossing out the baby with the bath water. Why make people like Bashir's parents into criminals for wanting to help their child? There's a difference between breeding and upgrading humans into augments and using valid medical science to help people. Any culture or society that can't separate the two, loses the right to claim an enlightened superiority.

 

[C.E. Evans]

There's a difference between banning the creation of Augments/Super Humans and a total ban on genetic research and modification like we see on Earth/in the Federation. It's bigoted paranoia and short sighted.

Not if it has a proven track record of always producing world-dominating tyrants.

Again: You're tossing out the baby with the bath water.

In this case, both are too dangerous to keep around.

Why make people like Bashir's parents into criminals for wanting to help their child? There's a difference between breeding and upgrading humans into augments and using valid medical science to help people. Any culture or society that can't separate the two, loses the right to claim an enlightened superiority.

It has to be a case where the danger is a totally proven one (happening more than once with a strong probability of it happening again). That for every Julian Bashir, there will indeed be a Khan Noonien Singh who will bring widespread death and destruction (i.e., the Eugenics Wars, the Augment Crisis of 2154, and the attacks on London & San Francisco). Under those circumstances, the dangers far outweigh any potential benefits, so it's considered illegal. No society can exist without protecting itself with an extreme measure or two, not even enlightened ones.

 

[Kemaiku]

Julian was ready to have the entire Federation lie down and let the Dominion conquer them, acted like a total creep for 7 years and lied to everyone he cared about. It's not like he could be trusted either.

 

[Yanks]

Julian was ready to have the entire Federation lie down and let the Dominion conquer them, acted like a total creep for 7 years and lied to everyone he cared about. It's not like he could be trusted either.

Yeah, but he ended up banging Jazia vicariously though Ezri! So everything is alright.