How do/did you feel about the return of the Enterprise-D?

[Lord Garth]

The one thing I'd love to see with the Enterprise-D, now that they have it back, is for Leah Brahms to visit and tell Geordi, "You fucked up my engine designs even more!!!"

Anti-fan-servicers, hush.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I have a different reason for being hesitant about it. I'm hearing impaired (it's relatively mild loss and many times I'm fine even without hearing aids but for softer speech I need them) myself. I always wanted to see a future where disabled people were cured. Then Alex Kurtzman says they are having a deaf character in the show (unless I misread the interview or whatever), and I'm like--they're taking away even my hope for a cure in the fantasy 32nd century? I'm supposed to be the disabled people they're supposedly representing, and I WANT to see a cure for myself in the future (and the disabled people I know or know of feel the same way. Christopher Reeves was begging for funding for stem cell research until he died). They're misreading the audience they claim they're trying to attract.

Depends on how it's done.
If it's an alien, then it's easy enough to explain/explore like Hemmer on SNW.
Though hasn't the ship already sailed a bit with Geordi?

 

[Yistaan]

Depends on how it's done.
If it's an alien, then it's easy enough to explain/explore like Hemmer on SNW.
Though hasn't the ship already sailed a bit with Geordi?

I wasn't happy about Geordi either but 800 years have passed since Geordi's time for Starfleet Academy

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Because everyboby knows that nobody wants to watch a teen drama by that hack Alex Kurtzman. Even if the show is loaded with unbelievable talent, probably one of the most talented cast we've ever seen in Star Trek.

I'm not really into how you're playing into this 'us versus them' thing that's going on. I'm sure there are people out there who preach that Alex Kurtzman is the bad guy and Terry Matalas is their saviour but I have most of them blocked on YouTube so I don't hear it.

That said, you won't believe how many series filled with talented casts that I don't watch. Also the last time I had the slightest interest in a show about a school was when Buffy the Vampire Slayer was airing, and I didn't want Academy back then either. I'll give it a fair chance, but I'm doing it purely because they put "Star Trek" in the title, nothing else.

No, the real fans of Star Trek demand a show by Terry Matalas, the one true visionary showrunner who can save Star Trek by falling back on plots and characters from the god damn 90's!

Star Trek aired like 400 episodes in the 90s and then disappeared from TV for the next 15 years, so yeah that's where they have to continue from. And now other shows can continue from Picard.

Who cares what modern audiences want! Terry showed the New Jersey looking like it did in the 60's. This is all the proof we fans should need that he is who we should be following! If it isn't a show based on a scribble on a napkin by the Lord Matalas, it's certainly doomed to fail. It's Terry or Bust! #savestartrek #interrywetrust #startreklegacy #captainseven

I have to be honest, when I realised how frustrated I was getting about current Trek I quit TrekBBS because I didn't want to be that guy who's only there to make angry rants about how they changed things and he doesn't like it. But I was so happy to see the New Jersey that I came back just because I wanted to talk to someone about it. And the Enterprise D made me happy too.

Here's the thing about modern audiences, I'm really happy if they can jump on board with what I like. The more people we can get watching these series, the healthier the franchise will be and it's just nice to see people enjoying something I love. But that doesn't mean I want to jump on board with a Star Trek show made to give other people what THEY like.

 

[The Wormhole]

I have a different reason for being hesitant about it. I'm hearing impaired (it's relatively mild loss and many times I'm fine even without hearing aids but for softer speech I need them) myself. I always wanted to see a future where disabled people were cured. Then Alex Kurtzman says they are having a deaf character in the show (unless I misread the interview or whatever), and I'm like--they're taking away even my hope for a cure in the fantasy 32nd century?

Okay. So if I understand this post with your previous post, by having the Enterprise D there as the cadet training ship, the sins of having a deaf character and suggesting disabilities still exist in the 32nd century would be washed away?

I'm supposed to be the disabled people they're supposedly representing, and I WANT to see a cure for myself in the future (and the disabled people I know or know of feel the same way. Christopher Reeves was begging for funding for stem cell research until he died). They're misreading the audience they claim they're trying to attract.

Though hasn't the ship already sailed a bit with Geordi?

I wasn't happy about Geordi either but 800 years have passed since Geordi's time for Starfleet Academy

Fun fact: there was originally a plan to cure Geordi's blindness in TNG's second season. Until LeVar Burton met with disabled fans who liked the presence of a disabled person on the Enterprise, which prompted Burton to request the writers scrap the storyline.

 

[Firebird]

I know some people IRL who are interested in Starfleet Academy because of Holly Hunter and Paul Giamatti. People who I wouldn't really call fans. I haven't seen Hunter or Giamatti in anything -- that I recall -- so I'm interested to see what the big deal is.

If there is one thing the Kurtzman era of Star Trek has gotten consistently right, it's the casting directors. They haven't missed once since 2017.

 

[fireproof78]

Depends on how it's done.
If it's an alien, then it's easy enough to explain/explore like Hemmer on SNW.
Though hasn't the ship already sailed a bit with Geordi?

It sailed multiple times, with Kirk and glasses, Geordi and the visor for several years, and Hemmer.

It's just something that will be present because people want others to feel included. It's not any more complicated than that idea.

 

[Yistaan]

Okay. So if I understand this post with your previous post, by having the Enterprise D there as the cadet training ship, the sins of having a deaf character and suggesting disabilities still exist in the 32nd century would be washed away?



Fun fact: there was originally a plan to cure Geordi's blindness in TNG's second season. Until LeVar Burton met with disabled fans who liked the presence of a disabled person on the Enterprise, which prompted Burton to request the writers scrap the storyline.

You took my "more people will watch SFA if the D were on it" a little too seriously and then put up a strawman argument that "it's a teen drama not true Star Trek" as the reason why I wouldn't watch it. I'll probably wach it (unlike say Lower Decks which lost me 5 episodes in). BUT I'm just going to be honest, an educational setting is NOT my ideal fantasy setting to spend time in during my free time (it's why I could never get into Harry Potter). X-Men may be the exception but frankly most X-Men works don't focus on the educational aspect (helps that the professor there is a literal telepath who can just implant knowledge into students' minds). I don't have fond memories of school, despite technically doing well in it and working with 2 (future, at the time) Nobel laureates in college. School is grueling and stressful. I don't really want to have a fantasy setting evocative of that in my entertainment. I'm just being honest, it doesn't mean I'm "gatekeeping" what's "true" Star Trek or not. So the jab about the D was more about that, and then when pressed to provide more explanation since the "teen drama" jab at me already provided a hostile environment for me to be open about my concerns about a school setting, I focused more on my other concern (disabilities still aren't cured in the 32nd century, and if you check my post history I had the same complaint that Detmer's prosthetic wasn't removed when she arrived there).

I didn't know that story about Geordi supposedly being cured in TNG S2 and some disabled people feeling they wouldn't be represented. I'd argue that First Contact way probably was the best compromise for those disabled people and could've been done as early as S2 (but then the writers wouldn't have the "brainwash Geordi via visor" story crutch of the week--something that arguably makes disabled people look WORSE-- done so often and up to Generations)

 

[JesterFace]

I haven't watched the 'Picard' series, but one thing makes me wonder....
What was the reason to bring back Enterprise-D, an old if not outdated design?
Might the only reason be to get STNG fans to watch the series?
So basically this 'Picard' series became exactly what was said would not happen: a STNG reunion show.

 

[fireproof78]

basically this 'Picard' series became exactly what was said would not happen: a STNG reunion show.

Yes. That's what Matalas wanted and Stewart became more amiable after Season 1 to a more reunion idea. It leans heavily in to that idea while trying to move characters forward.

The success is reasonable though the messaging I find problematic.

Would recommend a watch though.

 

[FredH]

I haven't watched the 'Picard' series, but one thing makes me wonder....
What was the reason to bring back Enterprise-D, an old if not outdated design?
Might the only reason be to get STNG fans to watch the series?
So basically this 'Picard' series became exactly what was said would not happen: a STNG reunion show.

It was Geordi’s pet project so as to have it for the Starfleet Museum, not a recommissioning for active service.

Plus, IRL, it wasn’t advertised in advance, so while it was for TNG fans, it wasn’t to get them to watch in the first place; it suddenly shows up as a heartwarming surprise.

And yes, S3 did become the TNG reunion (to the unfortunate cost of the S2-3 cast).

 

[JesterFace]

Would recommend a watch though.

It hasn't happened yet and most likely won't happen for a long time but I'm not saying it will never happen. Maybe when 'Picard' seasons 4 and 5 come out. =)

 

[fireproof78]

It hasn't happened yet and most likely won't happen for a long time but I'm not saying it will never happen. Maybe when 'Picard' seasons 4 and 5 come out. =)

It was 3 and done.

 

[The Wormhole]

What was the reason to bring back Enterprise-D, an old if not outdated design?

It's not connected to the network that links all other Starfleet ships together, which the Borg hacked and took control of Starfleet.

 

[Finn]

No. It was plot.

 

[JesterFace]

It's not connected to the network that links all other Starfleet ships together, which the Borg hacked and took control of Starfleet.

Looks like Starfleet had already done some of the work for the Borg, ships in the same network, no need to start connecting them one by one.

 

[Tosk]

You'd think they'd have learned not to link everything so directly after what happened in the Prodigy season one finale.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

You'd think they'd have learned not to link everything so directly after what happened in the Prodigy season one finale.

Or the first ep of Picard season 2!

 

[Tomalak]

Or the fleet of automated ships in Lower Decks. Or Control in Disco. Or the M-5.

Starfleet never learns.

 

[Set Harth]

It's almost as if...