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I think I'd have to politely decline. It would probably be best for all involved. One look at me strolling down the aisle and the bride would probably swear off men forever.
How did you get into reading Trek novels?
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I think I'd have to politely decline. It would probably be best for all involved. One look at me strolling down the aisle and the bride would probably swear off men forever.
Okay, obviously the best (or your favourite) TOS novels were never translated into german.
And yes, I'm also one of those, who don't like "How much for just the planet".
Sadly no further TOS novels are planned to be translated. But if Cross Cult is inclined to publish one TOS per year again, there is a certain likelihood that it'll be one by @Greg Cox again. Which would be fine for me.
Why not going to the wedding? I'm sure, there are a lot of people looking worse.
I would even hope, most other guest would rather look like Lwaxana Troi, than like Deanna. Just to avoid any "reaction"
I wonder, how many people secretly try to tape the weddings
But where would they hide the cameras....
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They would probably assume I was Tellarite.
I'd like to see Tuvok's reaction when he is ordered by his captain to attend a Betazoid wedding formally undressed. "Gala Adams Kostüm"/Birthday Suit if you want.
Tough one. Lots to pick from there, but will try and list out some of the ones I seem to reread the most, order only by using the wikipedia list and not preference. (Also some are guilty pleasures and not bestest ever):
Yesterday Saga (Yesterday's Son, Time for Yesterday)
Uhura's Song
Dreadnought! / Battlestations!
Demons
Chain of Attack / Final Nexus
Dreams of the Raven (for being my first, despite it being a kinda dark bottle story)
3-Minute Universe
Memory Prime
Prime Directive (one of the best)
Sanctuary
Shell Game
Crossroad
Federation
First Frontier
Shadows on the Sun
To Reign In Hell (Khan book 3, didn't care for the first two nearly as much)
Best Destiny
Will toss Imzadi in so there's a TNG book too!
I'll cut it there and not wander too far into the newer books, those are all pretty much the numbered ones or the non-numbered Special ones from the era. Could probably talk up most of the rest, those are just the ones I seem to grab more than the others if I'm looking to do some comfort reading. Plenty of good ones not mentioned, a few stinkers, but I've got the better part of every Trek book that's been published, and read most of them to the point of destruction. A couple of them have been replaced and worn out again
I did a thread about this a while back to take a survey, but I seem to enjoy the 'crew cut off from the Enterprise', fighting against other Starfleet elements, or 'crippled/depowered Enterprise struggling to survive' stories the most. Looking at the list, really not a single one where the Enterprise is at full strength, the crew is on it and using their full capabilities to fight off the problem. Always stranded, cut off from the ship, or ship is lost or effed up somehow
Crossroad and Federation may be the only two that don't cleanly fit that bill? Guess I like them more humanized or stripped of their advantages maybe? Or having to improvise more instead of being in full command of a powerful ship and crew...
Crossroad and Federation may be the only two that don't cleanly fit that bill? Guess I like them more humanized or stripped of their advantages maybe? Or having to improvise more instead of being in full command of a powerful ship and crew...
Wow, I feel pretty much the exact opposite. I love Kirsten Beyer's Voyager Relaunch books, and I've actually been very happy with the amount of plot and character development in all of her books.Full Circle had a good first half, when they finished/continued Goldens best story-part. the second half? Nothing really happened, everyone and everything was depressive. It was just an extremely long prologue to the next book. And just by the way, Beyer killed most of Golden's characters
Unworthy was almost as long. This connected species was boring, the story was told in an much too long and boring way, and nothing really happened. Oh, wait, one interesting thing happened: this telepathic species had locked up the minds of some criminals, and one took control of a super-advanced hologram. The Hologram escaped.... and nothing happened. At least not in this book and the next two. Although it was long enough to also tell this story.
Children of the Storm had another telepathic species. At least, this time there was more action, but how did it end? By growing flowers.... they solved every problem. Too many new ships, with new (uninteresting, generic) characters, and no reason to care about their deaths.
And then... The Eternal Tide. Bringing back Janeway, because she is SOOOO important for solving the problem (although she didn't really do anything but talking). Oh yes, the problem.... Not only the crew is in danger, not only earth, not even only the federation, the galaxy, the universe.... NO! Janeway has to rescue the whole multiverse, the Q-Continuum and just EVERYTHING. Yes, why not? How lucky, that they were right in place (in all of the multiverse, space, time...). The book really started interesting, Captain Eden finding out more about her past, her origins. But why did Beyer have to exaggerate so extremely? Absolutely ridiculous.
I have now started Protectors. Once again an interesting premise (finding an extremely injured Celiar), but once again pages after pages with... nothing really happening.... Let's see, how it will continue...
Therefore I can understand, that some people have not much motivation, to read those very long stories. Sometimes it's much more fun, to read a 200-pages-book, than 400 to 500, if you just have the feeling, they are filling pages instead of getting to the point. (A very extreme example for this, in my opinion, is Double Helix 3: Red Sector. I can't believe, how you can tell such a boring story in so many words. The first 150 pages could have been compressed to 40, especially with such a pathetic character like Ensign Stiles.)
I'm trying to remember when exactly it was when I started reading the Trek novels and what my first one was. I know it was sometime in the mid to late 80s. Star Trek III reignited my childhood interest in Trek, and not long after I got the DC Comics adaptation of the movie as well as the next regular issue of the monthly series (The start of the Mirror Universe Saga). But what was my first actual Trek novel?
Looking at the publication dates, it was probably either Enterprise: The First Adventure or Vulcan's Glory. I didn't think much of Enterprise (The Mike Barr/David Ross comic book version of Kirk's first mission aboard the Enterprise is far better, IMO), but I liked D.C. Fontana's Vulcan's Glory a whole lot. I became a sporadic reader of the books after that. I remember reading my roommate's copy of The Lost Years my freshman year of college and picking up A Flag Full of Stars when the back cover copy'd mention of Kirk being married between TOS and TMP piqued my curiosity. In the late 90s, I collected a lot of the classic novels at my local used bookstore, along with most of the Best of Trek volumes.
In the last decade or so, my Trek novel reading has become a lot more sporadic, with my last big dive into the books being the 40th anniversary TOS tie-ins like the Crucible saga. A few years back I sold off the TNG novels I was unlikely to reread, only keeping a few favorites. I kept all of my TOS novels, as that's my favorite version of Trek. In the past few years I've honestly been buying more than I've found the time to read, but I liked David Goodman's The Autobiography of Captain Kirk a lot.
Looking at the publication dates, it was probably either Enterprise: The First Adventure or Vulcan's Glory. I didn't think much of Enterprise (The Mike Barr/David Ross comic book version of Kirk's first mission aboard the Enterprise is far better, IMO), but I liked D.C. Fontana's Vulcan's Glory a whole lot. I became a sporadic reader of the books after that. I remember reading my roommate's copy of The Lost Years my freshman year of college and picking up A Flag Full of Stars when the back cover copy'd mention of Kirk being married between TOS and TMP piqued my curiosity. In the late 90s, I collected a lot of the classic novels at my local used bookstore, along with most of the Best of Trek volumes.
In the last decade or so, my Trek novel reading has become a lot more sporadic, with my last big dive into the books being the 40th anniversary TOS tie-ins like the Crucible saga. A few years back I sold off the TNG novels I was unlikely to reread, only keeping a few favorites. I kept all of my TOS novels, as that's my favorite version of Trek. In the past few years I've honestly been buying more than I've found the time to read, but I liked David Goodman's The Autobiography of Captain Kirk a lot.
I started watching reruns of TNG one spring, then when Deep Space Nine started I watched that too being curious. It wasn't until the following year I even noticed the books. Saw a display of new releases at my local bookstore, which is closed now, and picked up both The Siege and Shell Game. I've been reading ever since.
Interesting that you liked the third book the best. The Germans only published book one and two of the Khan saga. Book 3 isn't planned anytime soon. I'll have to get the original. To Reign in Hell and Burning Dreams (Christopher Pike) are books I still have to acquire one day. Next month I will order two German editions, these English ones have to wait.
Also still missing in my collection: TOS, Garth of Izar and That Which Devides.
Burning Dreams is terrific! One of my all-time favorite Trek novels.
It’s excellent. Story of the time between Space Seed and TWOK. Shows the slow, tragic decline between what they started with and what they had by TWOK.
Other two books didn’t do it for me, 3rd one was great
Then the German publisher made a big mistake when they decided that they won't translate it.
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I remember watching The Next Generation reruns as a kid (they were on right after after-school cartoons at 5:00), and I really got into the novels right around the time TNG started their 20th anniversary relaunch books (c. 2007). My local Borders bookstore used to have a large Star Trek collection that had a lot of recently published materials on the shelf - and what I couldn't find in person, they'd special order it for me. A few years later when I got my Kindle, I got rid of a lot of my paper collection, a decision I've come to regret and I'm slowly-but-surely refilling my bookshelf.
My collection spans most of the novels published in the last 15 to 20 years and includes every TNG relaunch book, the ENT novels from Rosetta through the most recent Rise of the Federation, a number of the DS9 relaunch books (but not all of them), the first six SCE novels, and the complete Lost Era, IKS Gorkon and Stargazer series in paper, and all of the Titan, Vanguard and Seekers, the two DTIs and their subsequent novellas, the Kirsten Beyer VOY book series (I'm waiting to find the Christie Golden books at a better price), the A Time to..., and the post-Wildfire SCE stories on my Kindle; I also have a mixture of TOS books both in paper and on the Kindle. And any book I don't have that I'm interested in reading, I request from my local library before buying it either physically or digitally.
My collection spans most of the novels published in the last 15 to 20 years and includes every TNG relaunch book, the ENT novels from Rosetta through the most recent Rise of the Federation, a number of the DS9 relaunch books (but not all of them), the first six SCE novels, and the complete Lost Era, IKS Gorkon and Stargazer series in paper, and all of the Titan, Vanguard and Seekers, the two DTIs and their subsequent novellas, the Kirsten Beyer VOY book series (I'm waiting to find the Christie Golden books at a better price), the A Time to..., and the post-Wildfire SCE stories on my Kindle; I also have a mixture of TOS books both in paper and on the Kindle. And any book I don't have that I'm interested in reading, I request from my local library before buying it either physically or digitally.
I enjoyed all 3 of the books. I thought the first 2 books did a good job explaining where the genetically enhanced youths came from, and showed Khan's life after his creator was killed. Gary Seven almost managed to really change Khan's life by connecting with the troubled youth, but Khan's pride got in the way.
I've heard complaints that the books were exercises in continuity porn, fitting in real-world events and people, as well as appearances by 20th century characters from various episodes from all the ST series. I didn't feel that way at all. I thought it all flowed pretty well and made sense, especially with the constraints the author was under to fit the story into our real world during the established time period. Then the ST character cameos were just icing on the cake!
I read my first TNG novel in 4th grade, Rogue Saucer by John Vornholt. I think I wanted to read it because it was right after Generations and I was coming to terms with the end of something that was a big part of my life, lol. I think I thought that the book would somehow connect to events in the movie but I read it and was like, 'Oh it takes place during the show! When could this even have happened??' Oh, if I had only known, lol.
Anyway, I recall there being a retroactive allusion to Generations in it. And then I didn't pick up another ST novel until 2016! I noticed that there were books that came out after the end of Nemesis, notably that Dax was a captain now, and figured, 'Well that's silly,' but never actually picked any up. When Takedown came out, I didn't recognize the ship on the cover, and it was labeled The Next Generation, so I read the blurb and was like, 'ADMIRAL Riker?? This I gotta see.'
The next 2.5 years have been a blur of novelverse content, timelines, spreadsheets, hours spent on memory beta, throwing in opinions here and there with everyone here. I caught up to the whole current continuity and am planning to eventually go backwards to some of the connected TOS books, Vanguard, The Lost Era, and so forth but I don't have as much free time to read as I use to, lol. I spent a lot of time reading when I got into the current novelverse.
Anyway, I recall there being a retroactive allusion to Generations in it. And then I didn't pick up another ST novel until 2016! I noticed that there were books that came out after the end of Nemesis, notably that Dax was a captain now, and figured, 'Well that's silly,' but never actually picked any up. When Takedown came out, I didn't recognize the ship on the cover, and it was labeled The Next Generation, so I read the blurb and was like, 'ADMIRAL Riker?? This I gotta see.'
The next 2.5 years have been a blur of novelverse content, timelines, spreadsheets, hours spent on memory beta, throwing in opinions here and there with everyone here. I caught up to the whole current continuity and am planning to eventually go backwards to some of the connected TOS books, Vanguard, The Lost Era, and so forth but I don't have as much free time to read as I use to, lol. I spent a lot of time reading when I got into the current novelverse.
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