How come Nero wasn't stopped by the USS Relativity?

[nokiafuturephon]

All this talk about Trek time travel reminded me of the Borg's method of time travel in First Contact. Why didn't they time travel back in their region of space and annihilate Earth?

How does that work out with the new timeline? Did the First Contact people show up for first contact with the Vulcans in this timeline? Nero caused a paradox, and since the universe didn't disappear there must be some kind of timeline police, so why didn't the timeline police stop Nero?

 

[nokiafuturephon]

nokia - Take a break from starting so many threads, alright? Join in some of the other existing ones. Thanks, have fun.

I think it's very unprofessional for you to close my threads and berate me, just for pointing out flaws with a movie you seem to be in love with. Grow up.

 

[pookha]

Well Old Spock seems to care about this new timeline. Otherwise he wouldn't bother helping out the Vulcans in the new timeline. So what's to stop him from flying around the Sun and saving folks in the new timeline?

once you start down that path things instead of getting flixed may just get worse and worse.

which is what happened in voyagers year of hell.
every time that captain of the alien ship tried to fix things it just went all to murphy and back.

 

[DaveyNY]

nokia - Take a break from starting so many threads, alright? Join in some of the other existing ones. Thanks, have fun.

I think it's very unprofessional for you to close my threads and berate me, just for pointing out flaws with a movie you seem to be in love with. Grow up.

Whoa there cowpoke...

AKIRAPRISE is a MODERATOR here...

Just take a moment and RE-read what was typed to you...

There was no Berating going on darlin...

It was a friendly warning to ease back on starting so many threads...


And you really Don't wanna go up against (or PISS OFF) the one person who can lock you out of the BBS.

 

[nokiafuturephon]

He/she also closed a thread and said it belonged in another forum -- instead of moving it. He/she clearly has emotional issues.

 

[Gepard]

He/she clearly has emotional issues.

Making judgments about closing threads is his/her (his) job.

 

[DaveyNY]

Ummm... again... don't antagonize the folks that hold the power luv...

Or you won't be makin' ANY posts for quite some time...

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

All this talk about Trek time travel reminded me of the Borg's method of time travel in First Contact. Why didn't they time travel back in their region of space and annihilate Earth?

How does that work out with the new timeline? Did the First Contact people show up for first contact with the Vulcans in this timeline? Nero caused a paradox, and since the universe didn't disappear there must be some kind of timeline police, so why didn't the timeline police stop Nero?

So, if Timeline 1 E-E travels to Earth and leaves debris (FC), which is found by Timeline 2 Earth (Regeneration), leading to Timeline 3 (Nero), caused by Timeline 1's Spock.....

wait, did my brain just explode?

 

[nokiafuturephon]

Ummm... again... don't antagonize the folks that hold the power luv...

Or you won't be makin' ANY posts for quite some time...

He was the one who antagonized me. If I get banned for that, then why would I want to be here in the first place?

 

[Gepard]

So, if Timeline 1 E-E travels to Earth and leaves debris (FC), which is found by Timeline 2 Earth (Regeneration), leading to Timeline 3 (Nero), caused by Timeline 1's Spock.....

wait, did my brain just explode?

"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes/and other science facts/then repeat to yourself it's just a show/I should really just relax..."

 

[DaveyNY]

Ummm... again... don't antagonize the folks that hold the power luv...

Or you won't be makin' ANY posts for quite some time...

He was the one who antagonized me. If I get banned for that, then why would I want to be here in the first place?

Okkkayy...

Perhaps a quick visit to the RULES page would enlighten you as to how one should interact with others around here....


..and you will only hurt yourself if you get banned....


...you came here on your own... ..you choose to signup...

...that means ya gotta follow the rules that you agreed to when ya came in...

I'm jest tryin to help ya STAY here

 

[Akiraprise]

He/she also closed a thread and said it belonged in another forum -- instead of moving it. He/she clearly has emotional issues.

I certainly do.
Take my advice or leave it. Your choice. Here's the rules. Brush up on them for me.

Thanks for the support guys, but we can get back to discussing the topic now.

 

[nokiafuturephon]

Okkkayy...

Perhaps a quick visit to the RULES page would enlighten you as to how one should interact with others around here....


..and you will only hurt yourself if you get banned....

I think Akirawhatever and you would benefit from trips to the RULES page too.

 

[DaveyNY]

Okkkayy...

Perhaps a quick visit to the RULES page would enlighten you as to how one should interact with others around here....


..and you will only hurt yourself if you get banned....

I think Akirawhatever and you would benefit from trips to the RULES page too.

Oh Lordy...

Nice talkin' to ya Darlin'... I'm gone...

 

[Gepard]

Anyhow...in reply to the original question: because timeline correcting bureaucrats are boring and would have added nothing to the film. I'm in agreement with one of the earlier comments about Trek's big mistake being making time travel so darn easy. IMHO, it's better to just quietly pretend all that timecop and easy time travel stuff never happened.

 

[nokiafuturephon]

Anyhow...in reply to the original question: because timeline correcting bureaucrats are boring and would have added nothing to the film. I'm in agreement with one of the earlier comments about Trek's big mistake being making time travel so darn easy. IMHO, it's better to just quietly pretend all that timecop and easy time travel stuff never happened.

Well if they decide to "correct" so many of Trek's problems, why didn't the film's creators make Vulcans less human-like? Why didn't they address the implausibility of an alien being able to successfully procreate with a human?

 

[Gepard]

Well if they decide to "correct" so many of Trek's problems, why didn't the film's creators make Vulcans less human-like? Why didn't they address the implausibility of an alien being able to successfully procreate with a human?

Because timecops weren't part of the original plan for Star Trek? This film is an attempt to go back to the basics for the franchise. The future time-traveling Federation only showed up in a handful of Voyager episodes; it's not like it matters that much to making Trek what it is. You could ask the same question about any Trek story involving time travel, actually. Why didn't they show up in "City on the Edge of Forever," or "Tomorrow is Yesterday" or "Time's Arrow?"

 

[-Brett-]

nokia - Take a break from starting so many threads, alright? Join in some of the other existing ones. Thanks, have fun.

I think it's very unprofessional for you to close my threads and berate me, just for pointing out flaws with a movie you seem to be in love with. Grow up.

If this particular point is a flaw, it's one with Voyager, not the movie.

If these timecops existed, why didn't they interfere with every time travel story from "Guardian..." to First Contact?

Voyager was long overdue for being discarded.

 

[Mach5]

Time Ship Relativity? Captain Braxton?

Does this film look like fucking 'Braga Trek' to you?

Braxton and his cute little time police may technically be canon, but luckily the new boys in town (Orci, Kurtzman & Co) have enough sense in them to just ignore that bullshit.

Berman/Braga era is over, thank God for that!

 

[MvRojo]

The whole Relativity thing always annoyed me. I really liked how this movie doesn't end with a reset button like about 99% of previous Trek time travel stories.