How come Nero wasn't stopped by the USS Relativity?

[nokiafuturephon]

I don't get it. The USS Relativity exists outside of space-time, so they wouldn't have been affected by Nero's actions. Couldn't they stop Nero somehow?

Also, couldn't the USS Enterprise, at the end of the movie, fly around the Sun really fast and go back in time and stop Nero before he imploded Vulcan?

 

[donners22]

Indeed, and couldn't Spock spin around a sun and tell them to begin working on a plan to fix the Romulan sun a bit earlier? Hell, why don't they do that every time something goes wrong.

Making it seem like they can call on time travel at a whim in earlier films was a dangerous move...

 

[nokiafuturephon]

Another valid point.

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

Nero gave the USS Relativity one long quiet stare and they ran off.

The Enterprise crew hadn't thought up the slingshot method for time traveling yet. Old Spock could did but he figured he was too old to go running around amok time.

 

[Jono]

If this is a complete new and alternate timeline then it wouldn't really influence the "real timeline", which the USS Relativity is from so they don't need to step in.

 

[nokiafuturephon]

Well Old Spock seems to care about this new timeline. Otherwise he wouldn't bother helping out the Vulcans in the new timeline. So what's to stop him from flying around the Sun and saving folks in the new timeline?

 

[donners22]

If this is a complete new and alternate timeline then it wouldn't really influence the "real timeline", which the USS Relativity is from so they don't need to step in.

Yeah, I suppose you could say that this creates a new timeline which branches off, and doesn't actually have an established future in which there is a Temporal Bureau of Investigations (or whatever they're called).

 

[Agent Richard07]

Making it seem like they can call on time travel at a whim in earlier films was a dangerous move...

Maybe they can't call on time travel whenever they want. Maybe that slingshot around the sun requires so much precision that it can't be done easily. Maybe Spock just got lucky in Star Trek IV.

 

[nokiafuturephon]

In the new timeline, if Kirk and co. ever end up on that planet from "City on the Edge of Forever", what's to stop Kirk from leaving a message somewhere for his dad to find warning him about Nero?

 

[Akiraprise]

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[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

This new branch of the timeline was no danger to the timeline the U.S.S. Relativity was charged with protecting. Sometimes time breaks off and begins a new, alternate time line and sometimes it does not fully break off and muddies the current timeline that the U.S.S. Relativity protects. It is more likely to muddy the current timeline than produce a clean break.

These is my theory.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

Captain Braxton probably sabotaged the ship somehow, as usual....

Just can't trust that guy!

 

[nokiafuturephon]

This new branch of the timeline was no danger to the timeline the U.S.S. Relativity was charged with protecting. Sometimes time breaks off and begins a new, alternate time line and sometimes it does not fully break off and muddies the current timeline that the U.S.S. Relativity protects. It is more likely to muddy the current timeline than produce a clean break.

These is my theory.

That's a good theory about the USS Relativity, but doesn't explain the other time travel methods Spock is aware of. I can think of Sun spinning and the "City on the Edge of Forever" planet. I suppose they could also ask Q for help.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

I don't get it. The USS Relativity exists outside of space-time, so they wouldn't have been affected by Nero's actions. Couldn't they stop Nero somehow?

Also, couldn't the USS Enterprise, at the end of the movie, fly around the Sun really fast and go back in time and stop Nero before he imploded Vulcan?

Because if a piss-ant 24th century ship like Voyager can take them out Nero could probably beat them with a slingshot. Hated that scene by the way. Usually even something from a few years into the future brings with it super-advanced technology that can't be beaten(see Endgame). But not for our Voyager heroes and that magic get out of danger free button.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

I assume that different timelines would have various incarnations of the Relativity or some other sort of Time Police, each with it's own rules and guidelines of when and when not to interfere.

Likewise, some timelines may never develop Time Cops....

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I suppose they could also ask Q for help.

Q does not help people.

 

[RAMA]

Because Future Guy intercepted them!!

 

[nokiafuturephon]

The more I think about it, the more the "City on the Edge of Forever" planet seems like a good idea.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

The Relativity was probably already a victim of the Temporal Cold War. Obviously, for such a war to even take place, the Relativity and its Time Cop Companions would have to have already been overwhelmed (no thanks to Janeway )

 

[DaveyNY]

Would have been neat if They had left Nero's fate uncertain...

He could have been developed into the Future Guy on Enterprise...