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House: 6x10 "Wilson" - Discussion and Spoilers

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Nice heartfelt episode with great moments between House and Wilson.

How long will Morrisons name remain in the credits?
 
^But usually, seasons are contracted for 13 episodes to begin with and then extended (typically for a "back nine" these days) if they perform well. So actors' contracts would often be handled on a similar basis. If an actress is in most of the initial 13 and missing from the back 9, it stands to reason that her credit would be dropped after episode 13. For a precedent, see 1984's V: The Series. One cast member was killed off in episode 11 and three more were dropped in episode 12, but all four were still credited in episode 13 and weren't removed from the credits until episode 14.
 
^But usually, seasons are contracted for 13 episodes to begin with and then extended (typically for a "back nine" these days) if they perform well. So actors' contracts would often be handled on a similar basis. If an actress is in most of the initial 13 and missing from the back 9, it stands to reason that her credit would be dropped after episode 13. For a precedent, see 1984's V: The Series. One cast member was killed off in episode 11 and three more were dropped in episode 12, but all four were still credited in episode 13 and weren't removed from the credits until episode 14.
 
This is the 6th season of House, episode 13 means nothing when the show was picked up for 22 episodes. She is a full time cast member with the show until the end of this season, which is in May.
 
^I'm aware of what season it is and don't see the relevance. Yes, you may be right that the season was picked up for a full 22, but that would be because it's a successful show. There's no rule that says a show in its 6th season can't get an initial 13-episode order before getting a back-9 pickup. That's the rule for TV shows. The exception is getting a full 22-episode order off the bat. And actors' contract terms don't necessarily line up exactly with season orders. We can't draw any firm conclusions about Morrison's contract based on the number of episodes in the order.

And yes, I'm guessing about the terms of Morrison's contract, but so are you. The actual facts will be what resolve the question.
 
I don't want to seem like an idiot, but I must have missed something in the episode. What is the part where Wilson "got it wrong" with his friend? (Other than not thinking it was cancer, I can't think of anything. And that didn't have a negative outcome, they *found* the cancer.)

And what was the deal with his friend turning out not to be a friend? I didn't see anything that would indicate that.
 
And what was the deal with his friend turning out not to be a friend? I didn't see anything that would indicate that.

I think it more Wilson accepting that the guy wasn't the type of person he wanted to be friends with. When you guilt someone into giving you part of his liver, by using the reasoning of not wanting to lose your family again, the least you can do is at least try to make it work with your wife rather than dumping her the second you get better.
 
^^^There are a lot of variables that can go into contract negotiations. I don't think we have enough information. Though, it's likely that she's getting paid for any episodes in which she's still in the main credits.
 
I don't want to seem like an idiot, but I must have missed something in the episode. What is the part where Wilson "got it wrong" with his friend? (Other than not thinking it was cancer, I can't think of anything. And that didn't have a negative outcome, they *found* the cancer.)

Wilson diagnosed the cancer and began to treat it but the chemotherapy wasn't working -his body (or the cancer) had grown immune to it. So the guy was only going to live for a few more months then Wilson suggested a more agressive double-dose treatment of chemo, which worked but killed the guy's liver. With his liver shot and acceptable donors unlikely to come-up in time (and in "reality" he wouldn't of even likely been put on the list for one) it came down to Wilson (who has Type-O blood/a match tot he friend) to donate.


The guy's argument on Wilson "getting it wrong" is that had Wilson not pushed him on the agressive chemo he'd have six months with his family.


And what was the deal with his friend turning out not to be a friend? I didn't see anything that would indicate that.

My understanding was that they were only friends because the guy latched onto Wilson after Wilson saved his life. Their friendship wasn't built on anything else. And, well, a "real friend" wouldn't guilt you into undergoing a risky surgery and to give up half of one of your most vital organs (whether it'll regenerate or not.)
 
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I don't want to seem like an idiot, but I must have missed something in the episode. What is the part where Wilson "got it wrong" with his friend? (Other than not thinking it was cancer, I can't think of anything. And that didn't have a negative outcome, they *found* the cancer.)
Well, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Wilson used House's methods -- the girlfriend has a cold sore, which can cause nerve paralysis due to kissing -- and treated for that. Only that turned out to be completely incorrect.

At the same time, with Del he used House's methods -- noticed that Del didn't talk about his grandchildren, which suggested depression -- and had the insight that this meant that Del had another cancer growth.
 
I don't want to seem like an idiot, but I must have missed something in the episode. What is the part where Wilson "got it wrong" with his friend? (Other than not thinking it was cancer, I can't think of anything. And that didn't have a negative outcome, they *found* the cancer.)
Well, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Wilson used House's methods -- the girlfriend has a cold sore, which can cause nerve paralysis due to kissing -- and treated for that. Only that turned out to be completely incorrect.

At the same time, with Del he used House's methods -- noticed that Del didn't talk about his grandchildren, which suggested depression -- and had the insight that this meant that Del had another cancer growth.

At the same time, House would notice some small-detail on someone which would pique his interest to take the case but in the end that small detail would lead to several mis-diagnoses and in the end have little to do with the final diagnosis. ;)

And House would've never "cured" the second Wilson patient since House avoids meeting with his patients as much as possible and couldn't care less about what they have to say about their families. ;)
 
And what was the deal with his friend turning out not to be a friend? I didn't see anything that would indicate that.

I think it more Wilson accepting that the guy wasn't the type of person he wanted to be friends with. When you guilt someone into giving you part of his liver, by using the reasoning of not wanting to lose your family again, the least you can do is at least try to make it work with your wife rather than dumping her the second you get better.

Ah, hm.

Okay, I lost track of the wives. Was the current wife or the ex the one he wanted as his medical proxy? I thought it was the ex. And which one did he move into a rehab near? I thought that was his current wife coming in at the end.

Damn, I need to watch more closely.

Yeah, I did get that bit about guilting Wilson into the liver, but after donating it, I couldn't understand why Wilson did the "It's James, actually" and wheel out on them -- instead of just saying, "sorry, doctors don't do this" in the first place.
 
And what was the deal with his friend turning out not to be a friend? I didn't see anything that would indicate that.

I think it more Wilson accepting that the guy wasn't the type of person he wanted to be friends with. When you guilt someone into giving you part of his liver, by using the reasoning of not wanting to lose your family again, the least you can do is at least try to make it work with your wife rather than dumping her the second you get better.

Ah, hm.

Okay, I lost track of the wives. Was the current wife or the ex the one he wanted as his medical proxy? I thought it was the ex. And which one did he move into a rehab near? I thought that was his current wife coming in at the end.

Damn, I need to watch more closely.

Yeah, I did get that bit about guilting Wilson into the liver, but after donating it, I couldn't understand why Wilson did the "It's James, actually" and wheel out on them -- instead of just saying, "sorry, doctors don't do this" in the first place.

His saying "It's James" was just his balls dropping some and not being such a doormat.
 
What I find odd is the assertion that blood type alone is enough to make a liver match. I thought it would have to be from a family member, or at least someone with a lot more markers or whatever in common than just blood type.
I was thinking the same thing.

According to House Medical Reviews, there were several problems with the episode (as usual) but this was not one of them.
 
^^^There are a lot of variables that can go into contract negotiations. I don't think we have enough information.

My point exactly.

Though, it's likely that she's getting paid for any episodes in which she's still in the main credits.

Not just likely; it's a given. That's what credits mean. They're indicators of who's getting paid how much. Anyone who gets credit is getting paid, period.
 
Though, it's likely that she's getting paid for any episodes in which she's still in the main credits.
Not just likely; it's a given. That's what credits mean. They're indicators of who's getting paid how much. Anyone who gets credit is getting paid, period.
One of the best examples of that is Cirroc Lofton. He was barely in Deep Space Nine's final season, yet as a main cast credited actor, he was paid for every episode. Aron Eisenberg, who is arguably more important in the seventh season, was paid only for the episodes where he was credited as a guest star.

Jennifer Morrison and Jesse Spenser had a sweet gig going the last two years on House; they barely appeared and got paid like a star. :)
 
"If you die then I'm alone." It was one of the most selfish yet also one of the kindest and most heartfelt lines that I think the character has ever said and shows just how important Wilson is to House. That scene made the episode and season for me already!

Agreed. And I think it was a kick to the assumptions of Wilson that House was a brick with no feelings, and why he went from telling house to move out into getting a larger place that they could share.

Yep, I loved both of those parts. The House/Wilson friendship/bromance is really my favorite part of the show. I love the way these two interact, and the way they really need each other.

And I'm wondering if they're going to follow this up with a "Cuddy" episode, something where she's the central character and House is peripheral in her life. Not sure if there's as much material there, though.

I have to say, I like her less and less each season, but it's the writing more than the actress. They write her as such a wishy-washy floozy. Saying yes to House and now Wilson's crazy schemes? Dating Lucas? She's that dumb girl character that was so prevalent in the 80s and isn't around as much anymore. If they actually wrote her as a real person, and not just the woman House wants but can't have, she'd be a lot more interesting.

^But usually, seasons are contracted for 13 episodes to begin with and then extended (typically for a "back nine" these days) if they perform well. So actors' contracts would often be handled on a similar basis. If an actress is in most of the initial 13 and missing from the back 9, it stands to reason that her credit would be dropped after episode 13. For a precedent, see 1984's V: The Series. One cast member was killed off in episode 11 and three more were dropped in episode 12, but all four were still credited in episode 13 and weren't removed from the credits until episode 14.

^I'm aware of what season it is and don't see the relevance. Yes, you may be right that the season was picked up for a full 22, but that would be because it's a successful show. There's no rule that says a show in its 6th season can't get an initial 13-episode order before getting a back-9 pickup. That's the rule for TV shows. The exception is getting a full 22-episode order off the bat. And actors' contract terms don't necessarily line up exactly with season orders. We can't draw any firm conclusions about Morrison's contract based on the number of episodes in the order.

The back 9 thing is true of new shows and shows on the bubble. House was picked up for a full season (as was 24 and the CSI shows). Dollhouse, on the other hand, was renewed for 13 with a wait and see on the back 9... and obviously they didn't get that back 9.

And yes, I'm guessing about the terms of Morrison's contract, but so are you. The actual facts will be what resolve the question.

I think she herself said in an interview at either E!Online or AskAusiello at EW.com that she was a regular for the remainder of the season, and her name would stay in the opening credits.

What I find odd is the assertion that blood type alone is enough to make a liver match. I thought it would have to be from a family member, or at least someone with a lot more markers or whatever in common than just blood type.
I was thinking the same thing.

According to House Medical Reviews, there were several problems with the episode (as usual) but this was not one of them.

That surprises me, too. I found that to be the most unrealistic part of the episode, but I guess I was wrong about that!

Overall, a really good episode.
 
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