Hologram Nurse

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Tommy Boy, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Scout101

    Scout101 Admiral Admiral

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    ^still an easy problem to get around. They weren't having problems creating holograms with personality (see the entire town of FairHaven, etc). they just couldn't integrate the medical knowledge, which is a crap excuse, given what they've done.

    Take the Moset hologram, change the appearance, and insert new personality and morals. Medical knowledge stays safe and sound, new doctor.
     
  2. kimc

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    Well the obvious answer to that one is no it is not. To me the larger question was is it ethical to use the medical knowledge gained in unethical ways to treat others?

    Putting myself in the place of the medical victim I like the idea that my suffering would be of benefit to someone down the line. It would give some meaning to it. However, I would not want the doctor torturing me to receive any credit, recognition or money for the findings.

    As for B'Elanna I would think there wouild be some satisfaction in knowing that the knowledge that was acquired to benefit Cardassians and not people like her was going to be used to benefit her anyway would be a form of revenge.
     
  3. exodus

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    As for B'Elanna I would think there wouild be some satisfaction in knowing that the knowledge that was acquired to benefit Cardassians and not people like her was going to be used to benefit her anyway would be a form of revenge.[/QUOTE]
    Unfortunately, I doubt it.
    Be'lanna's hatred and prejudice for Cardassians runs too deep for her to be that objective about it. Due to that, this ep. also made me wonder what did the Cardies do to Be'Lanna to make her hate them so. They never said if she was from the colonies in the Demiliterized Zone or not.
     
  4. timothy1701

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    I can't remember now how they made the Moset hologram. Did the doctor just whip him up from one of the holodeck's programs or did they have to build him?
     
  5. exodus

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    I think they built him from a character profile in the data base, so he only contained Moset's personality & medical knowledge. He still doesn't contain the entire Starfleet medical data base our EMH does.
     
  6. Gil T.Azell

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    Who should they of cast as this Nurse? ( if they'd thought of it)
     
  7. Anwar

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    Well, if this was before ENT they could get Jolene Blalock for it ;).
     
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    Just saw the episode "Night" where Neelix suggests rotating crew assignments. (which is a really good idea since you can never know who's going to die when you're stranded in the DQ)Anyways....Chell could've made an interesting nurse, since he's so friendly, etc.
     
  9. exodus

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    Elexis Arquette?


    :lol:
     
  10. AthanisTree

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    Robert Downey Jr. :drool:

    Can you imagine the battle of wits between he and the Doc? :devil:
     
  11. Wil has a posse

    Wil has a posse Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The absence of other holographic medical personnel always irked me. We already know it's possible to create complex holograms--even self-aware ones--and the Sick Bay systems are capable of running more than one hologram at the same time. There's no reason why a ship that can create a holographic doctor, can't create a holographic nurse. Doesn't even have to be empowered with all the knowledge the EMH has, just simple triage!

    Sure, I understand the story motivations (to say nothing of what happens when you consider that, if they can create a doctor and a nurse, why not 10 nurses? Why not 20 engineers? Ad infinitum.)

    But it still bothered me.
     
  12. Anwar

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    Also, it diminishes the EMH as a character as well. I mean if they can just make dozens of holograms, then he can just be disposed of or killed off/deleted and they can just re-make him.
     
  13. Itisnotlogical

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    Voyager's system was all set up with room for only *one* EMH. Not two. But you would think that in case a ship gets lost like Voyager did, they would have made an Emergency Medical Staff program.
     
  14. Scout101

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    what's the difference, though, if there's room for all those OTHER holo-characters, at least one of which was a doctor, complete with skills. Wouldn't work from a TV standpoint, but if they had the Cardassian in there for 'historical' purposes, no reason that dialing up McCoy would have been any harder. Just can't film it.

    And books later used this easily, but there shouldn't have been anything special about the program for the Doctor. If there's space left on Voyager's hard drive, no reason you couldn't just copy it and make more, or run more than one copy at once. Again, no good for TV, but it would be a retardedly-simple "real world" concept for Trek. If they imagined a situation where they needed a holo-doctor, they could just as easily look at that and imagine a mass-casualty event requiring an extra half-dozen doctors.

    Only reason for the single, un-copyable version of the Doctor was so that they could use it as a plot point here and there when they felt like ignoring other things they've shown. That and to make you actually care about the Doctor as a 'person' rather than how you care about the helm console. And ease of filming, I suppose...
     
  15. Timo

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    Conveniently, they never ended up using the "Aaargh, if we lose him we're screwed!" plot opportunity in any serious way. In "Message in a Bottle", it was used for comedic relief only. In "Virtuoso", it was not considered even worth a full line. So we don't really have to think they would have been screwed if they lost the EMH.

    In contrast, they got lots of mileage on the "Aaargh, if we lose him he's dead, and we all like him even though we don't show it much, and besides he's a unique achievement.." aspect of it. Losing the EMH would indeed be a disaster - for the EMH! And that was sufficient grounds for drama, as it should be.

    Timo Saloniemi