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Hollywood 'now in de facto strike'

I surprisingly have no problems with the actors; the writers are the ones who screwed this up by going early. But at least the writers got their DVD residuals increased like they wanted...oh, wait. That's right. They didn't. After all the moaning and bitching, they (by their standards) took a crappy deal in order to save the precious Oscars. The moguls are still laughing their asses off about that one, and it's colored how they're handling in the actor situation too.

The writers screwed everybody - including themselves.
 
I surprisingly have no problems with the actors; the writers are the ones who screwed this up by going early.
What do you mean going early? Striking earlier? That couldn't be helped because their contracts ran out then!

As for the actors, I won't start "panicking" until the SAG says I should. ;)
 
Great. I can't find a reason to support actors getting paid more. I know we aren't just talking about the big name multi-million dollar marquee names. I'm sure the actors doing Burger King commercials want more, however I'd also wager they make pretty good money doing what they do.
Most of them don't earn enough to make a living on their acting income alone; it's a second or third job, maybe. One or two or three days' work at scale, spread out over a year's time, doesn't come close to paying the bills, and that's the way it is for most of the union membership.
 
Great. I can't find a reason to support actors getting paid more. I know we aren't just talking about the big name multi-million dollar marquee names. I'm sure the actors doing Burger King commercials want more, however I'd also wager they make pretty good money doing what they do.

No, not really.

The studio bosses are the bad guys. It's that simple.

You wouldn't need to know jack squat about any of this to be able to guess that it's all about the corporate bastards being bastards. :lol:

Indeed. I always just assume that's true, in any labour dispute, unless and until I see evidence to the contrary. And so far, I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary.
 
Seems to me the difference between what is going on now and what happened last year is that both sides really do want to hammer out a deal and won't actually stop negotiating until one is done. That's good to hear. Personally, I think one of the sides will bend just because I don't think Hollywood could stand having two strikes in two consecutive years.
 
Seems to me the difference between what is going on now and what happened last year is that both sides really do want to hammer out a deal and won't actually stop negotiating until one is done. That's good to hear. Personally, I think one of the sides will bend just because I don't think Hollywood could stand having two strikes in two consecutive years.

Judging from viewership, I would have thought the WGA strike truly did hurt the TV business. But then the networks had a good ad selling season, and movies are doing well this summer, so I'm not sure if there's even going to be much long-term impact.

And even if there is, it could be dangerous: each side would think the other will cave in first, being frightened for their livelihood.
 
What do you mean going early? Striking earlier? That couldn't be helped because their contracts ran out then!

Have you been reading any of the actor's strike coverage? They're specifically talking about how the contract running out does *not* mean the union must go on strike. This from the most rabidly pro-WGA reporter, Nikke Finke:

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.c...uel-but-when-will-hollywood-get-back-to-work/

"Not only is there no strike plan, there is no strike authorization, and there is no requirement that SAG has to go on strike once the contract expires on June 30th. It's not uncommon in labor disputes for union members to agree to extend the contract or to remain working under the existing terms of the previous contract while negotiations continue."
Hell, the CBS news writers kept working on expired contracts for several *years*.

You guys always talk about the AMPTP's misleading spin, but you don't even recognize the most obvious one the WGA threw in your face. The WGA lied to you - period.
 
I was wondering how long it would be before TemporalFlux reared his bitchy head in this thread.

I'm still waiting to hear your rebuttal from the old WGA strike thread man.
 
Great. I can't find a reason to support actors getting paid more. I know we aren't just talking about the big name multi-million dollar marquee names. I'm sure the actors doing Burger King commercials want more, however I'd also wager they make pretty good money doing what they do.
Most of them don't earn enough to make a living on their acting income alone; it's a second or third job, maybe. One or two or three days' work at scale, spread out over a year's time, doesn't come close to paying the bills, and that's the way it is for most of the union membership.

The SAG has 122,000 members. The average income is $52,000 a year. However, that takes into account guys like Tom hanks who make $30,000,000 a year, which heavily biases that average. Only 4,000 members make $25,000-100,000 a year, and only 6,000 members make more than 100,000 a year. I would wager the number of people who make $1,000,000+ a year is two hundred or less, and out of that only a few dozen actually do it year after year for life-long career.

So what you've got is 110,000 members who don't even make a living wage. A lot of members are only members for a short while or don't get any meaningful work and their big fat "Zero" is included in that too, but to say the the guild is full of people making riches is simply untrue.
 
talking of the WGA strike, by far the must annonying element of it for me was the loss to the Daily Show, lets skip froward a few weeks, could the Daily Show air during a SGA strike?
 
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