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HMV Canada - is the bell tolling for thee?

I used to pop in to the Sparks Street HMV here in Ottawa about twice a week on the way to my bus stop after work, but since I moved I don't go by there anymore and have been mainly getting my DVDs or CDs from Amazon. Last time I was there was to get Let Me In when it came out on DVD, and discovered their big store had closed and they'd moved to a space about half the size a couple of blocks up the street.

I think that's just a temporary move while the old building is renovated. IIRC, the Hallmark next door moved down the street too and the old building is empty now.
 
I actually said 'goodbye' to HMV a month ago.

When I first moved to Ontario in 1998, I was dazzled by the selection of classical-music CDs available at the big stores on Yonge Street in Toronto. I would visit Sam the Record Man and HMV every time I went to TO, first from Hamilton, and later from Sudbury.

But that's all gone now. First Sam the Record Man folded. Then HMV cut back on its classical-music selection: what had formerly taken up 2/3 of the top floor was reduced to just 1/3 of the top floor; what had formerly been the Jazz section was now the Classical section.

The last time I visited the store, I finally realized just how far it had fallen. The selection was a mere shadow of its former self. I bought a couple of CDs--including Faure's Requiem, appropriately enough--and vowed never to go back. It was just too painful.

I can still buy all the music I want. In fact, the selection available online, from amazon and arkivmusic (a specialty classical-music retailer) is better than anything Sam and HMV ever offered at their height. And I've started looking into downloading music as well.

But I'm going to miss being able to shop for music, as a leisure activity. The experience of going to a well-stocked store and browsing their selection was a real pleasure for me.
 
Exactly, Goliath. If you're ever in Ottawa or in the Province of Quebec, you should check out Archambault. I go there everytime I go to Ottawa and it's a great store with a great selection. Probably our best store at the moment. I wish one would open up here in Sudbury since we have a large french-speaking population, but it equally serves the English population well too.
 
The CBC is reporting that the UK head office of HMV is mulling selling off the Canadian branch of the HMV chain. In Canada, HMV is one of the last of the big national chains dedicated to just CDs/DVDs and games. (As opposed to places like Best Buy that include them in sections, with CD sections becoming tinier by the week, it seems.)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/03/25/hmv-canada-sale.html

Doesn't mean a sale will happen. They could just decide to shut them all down. Or they'll get bought by Game Stop or something and change focus. I was actually surprised to read this because I always thought HMV Canada was a separate entity anyway - like BBC America being separate from the main BBC. The fact HMV in the UK is in trouble is worth noting beyond Canada, too - I hadn't heard that until now.

I usually get flamed for my views regarding the value of actual "brick and mortar" stores, and actual physical permanent media, so I'll refrain from editorializing further on that point (other than to say since I entered my 40s I have rapidly seen my world shrinking as more places I go to in order to get me out of the house disappear; I expect to be in full-fledged hermit mode by the time I'm 47).

One of the user comments really annoyed me, though - a guy saying something to the effect "good riddance" because all the CDs he buys he can get for cheaper at Costco (a membership-based discount superstore chain). Which is great if your interest in music begins and ends with Lady Gaga. But I'll never see a Laurie Anderson or Imelda May or Residents or Jeff Beck or Aphex Twin CD at f-ing Costco. HMV is one of the last remaining places in Canada where you can actually expect to find this stuff on the shelves. I've often found CDs and DVDs at HMV that I can't even order through Amazon, and a few years ago they brought back an idea the late, lamented A&B Sound chain had and added small book sections (real books that you'll still be able to read 5 years from now without having to renew the lease). And in my personal experience I find HMV tends to hire people who don't give you a blank stare when you ask if they carry a certain Jeff Beck CD or a DVD of a movie made before 2004 (I honestly have encountered this at places like Best Buy).

As the news story says, HMV head office hasn't made any decisions, and may do something else entirely, but I definitely see this as the bell tolling. I'll have to make plans to travel to the big HMV at West Edmonton Mall (the best-stocked location of the chain outside the UK, in my opinion) before long.

Alex

Christ, no wonder I saw two big boxes of discounted DVD's on sale when I went in there last week, and why my CV was rejected by the lady, as well as hearing that they planned to close up the other side of the store-what the fuck is going to happen to them? I just hope that it isn't closing down, because where will I buy DVD's and CD's?
 
Ouch, that's not good as it's the last big music store chain. Can't say I'm too sad though as I never shopped there. Still, the concept of there being no big music store that one can rely on is pretty sad. There's one chain that's mostly in the province of Quebec, and that's Archambault, run by Quebecor Media. I doubt it would happen, but it's always an option for them to buy the stores and run them as Archambaults throughout Canada. They tend to have a rather good selection of both English and French music.

I dunno... nobody seemed to be interested in acquiring Musicworld or Sam the Record Man (:() when they folded.


True enough. I think the biggest impact for me was losing Sam's. It was a great store, and I even relied on them to order something in at times. The staff was also pretty friendly. Then when they went out of business, I don't know about anywhere else, but MusicWorld took over the location, and they were Ok when they first moved in, but during the last years of the store, I started to feel disenchanted by them. There were at least three times I went in looking for music, after having browsed and seeing something I wanted months prior, only to be told they were removed from the shelves because they weren't selling. Well, fair enough. But to have it happen three times was a blow to me and I was starting to feel as if they weren't supporting the music I liked. And how could I support the bands by buying their albums if I couldn't find their albums in stores.

Yeah, Sam was amazing. Personally, I miss the Yonge Street flagship store more than anything. They always had an awesome selection, and that storefront was just a classic.
 
I've actually never been to the flagship store, unfortunately. I never spent much time in Toronto and only visited the city twice, but yeah, from what I'd seen of it, it was quite impressive. Maybe another store will fill the niche and pay homage to it with a similar sign.
 
^ I think the sign will eventually go back up, actually, when Ryerson builds whatever it is they're building on the site. It was protected under Toronto's heritage act when Sam's went out of business.
 
I don't use them anymore. I went in to buy a Xmas present of a TV series for one of my sons and their price was $20 higher than Best Buy. I gave them a chance to match it and they said they wouldn't.

I really don't buy CDs anymore - I buy music online and listen to it on my computer and iPhone. I also stopped buying DVDs once I got Netflix.
 
You're right, 23skidoo: HMV is one of the last places that tries to cater to music buffs and enthusiasts, and their end will be a sad day for Canadian consumers, whether they know it yet or not.

With the explosion in popularity of YouTube and iTunes, etc., etc., etc., I think people simply don't care so much about quality as they do convenience. MP3s, music compressed to hell just isn't the same as a compact disc. Watching a streamed movie over the net is not what I want.
 
A little OT, I live in the UK and I went into the city of Nottingham on Wednesday and HMV had closed two of their stores including the biggest one, I'm going to miss HMV when they go. Shopping on line is not the same has browsing though a shop.:(

HMV also owns the Waterstone line of bookshops and if I remember rightly, the HMV Group is in such bad shape right now they plan on closing or selling off upto 600 branches nationwide.

Bath has a HMV and a Waterstones and I would be more upset if the latter closes over the former.
 
HMV is too expensive (at least here in the UK), there's a large new one opened up a couple of years back here in Doncaster, but walking through it kinda reminds me of a scene from Dawn of the Dead, lots of people milling around not buying anything (at least they're not consuming each others intestines).
I think it's sadly had it's day, Dimesdan - We have a Borders turned Waterstones here, I hope they're not under threat.
 
A little OT, I live in the UK and I went into the city of Nottingham on Wednesday and HMV had closed two of their stores including the biggest one, I'm going to miss HMV when they go. Shopping on line is not the same has browsing though a shop.:(

HMV also owns the Waterstone line of bookshops and if I remember rightly, the HMV Group is in such bad shape right now they plan on closing or selling off upto 600 branches nationwide.

Bath has a HMV and a Waterstones and I would be more upset if the latter closes over the former.

There is a warterstones in Nottingham too, but for the life of me I can't think where it is.
 
A little OT, I live in the UK and I went into the city of Nottingham on Wednesday and HMV had closed two of their stores including the biggest one, I'm going to miss HMV when they go. Shopping on line is not the same has browsing though a shop.:(

HMV also owns the Waterstone line of bookshops and if I remember rightly, the HMV Group is in such bad shape right now they plan on closing or selling off upto 600 branches nationwide.

Bath has a HMV and a Waterstones and I would be more upset if the latter closes over the former.

There is a warterstones in Nottingham too, but for the life of me I can't think where it is.

There are Waterstones all over the place. I can think of four in my local area, two big ones in Bristol and Bath and two smaller ones in Trowbridge and Chippenham, I beleive there is one in Swindon, but I avoid that place like the plauge and another in Salisbury, but I hardly go there as it's a bitch to get too.
 
Very few people in my area can or do read it seems, for years there was just a W h smiths here, and it's a shocker, 3 floors, top one for stationary, bottom one for DVD's, videos and games, and the middle and main floor for magazines and books, shared about equally!
 
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