Hitler reacts to Discovery
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Hehe i saw this in another thread, pretty funny 
Not funny, when you understand, what he's actually saying...
Most Untergaenger videos are that way. I think only a few parallel the dialogue.
I don't speak German, but obviously the original movie was not a comedy. And he is saying the same thing in all these videos, something about WW2 persumably.
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Proper names are usually left intact. Almost all of the ones that use this scene work their way up to a punchline with "Stalin!!!" which is always fun.
For those who have a hard time understanding why this remains such a phenomenon, the scene in question represents the crushing of a dream. The details don't really matter. It's the underlying feeling of having your dreams suddenly crushed that can be translated into so many different permutations.
Oh it’s not about what he’s saying or that I’m offended by the parody. Thats fine. I just can’t switch off the real words. A dubbed version or at least the audio in a language I don’t understand would make it funny I presume.
I know German, and it is not about disappointment. It's the rant of a nihilistic,suicidal megalomaniac.
I've wondered how these videos would play if you actually understood what was being said.
It's not mutually exclusive. I don't see how you can not feel it's about disappointment. It's when Hitler realizes the war's lost and he attempts to blame everyone else but himself for it until finally saying "it is over. The war is lost."
You can say using the clip is in bad taste but at a certain level a lot of people can relate to the range of emotions he goes through (on the one hand) as well as see it from a third person perspective as taking any sort of fanatacism (including Star Trek fandom) too far. It doesn't mean we're giving Hitler a free pass for being a mass murderer or anything. This is merely a vessel of stock footage in which to insert outrages (usually petty ones).
There are so many angles and layers to the way the Downfall parodies have evolved. Someone has to get a grad thesis out of these.
Speaking of understanding the dialogue, I've always enjoyed this one for the meta aspect:
HO. LY. SHIT. This is amazing! I did not knew this existed! This is meta as hell!
The first twenty-six sentences of the speech, starting from "Das was ein Befehle (That was a command)," all deal with the failure to follow Hitler's orders, the incompetence of the German generals, the treason that Hitler sees in them, and Hitler's willingness to see them drown in blood. The last three Hitler expresses his preference to put a bullet in his head rather than flee. The two lines you quote might show disappointment if they were supported by the context of the speech, but it does not. The whole speech is about Hitler's greatness, his anger and his willingness to take everyone down with him. I have never felt these thoughts. I doubt most people have.
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I dont know german, so its funny to me.
I can se this being about super Mario moving from a 2D platformer into the 3D world... Or how resident evil transformed from a genious puzzle/horror game into a splatter fest.
I can se this being about super Mario moving from a 2D platformer into the 3D world... Or how resident evil transformed from a genious puzzle/horror game into a splatter fest.
You need to develop a sense of humor.
I mean, come on, how many threads here are a battle between canon police and people saying the equivalent of "get a life, it's just a TV show" ala Shatner?
That's exactly WHY Hitler thumping his chest the way he does WORKS for humor. It's because people's attachments to things takes on almost cult-like proportions. So again, you have videos in which you're supposed to be on Hitler's side in agreeing that this (film/tv-show/videogame/political election outcome) is bad OR we're supposed to gloat in schadenfreude at Hitler as a representation of the opposing team who just got humbled.
Go look in the Axanar threads where Hitler parodies are used repeatedly to mock Alec Peters. When used this way, Hitler is used to represent misplaced hubris.
Once you explain humor you destroy it, sort of like measuring quantum states, so the fact that I'm having to point this out means you obviously don't think it's funny. But you're the exception to the rule, as this parody phenomenon has been going on for over 9 years now.
BTW, a little more Star Trek context here.
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I find some Untergaenger videos funny, some not. That has nothing to do with how you misrepresent the original.
I did wonder how it would play to German speakers and the last line - not great.
Can I say though, all that stuff about it should've been a sequel and the Voyager references, lol, hit a raw nerve for me! That was kind of funny because I could've said it and have!
Fair enough. It's complicated because the audio/dialogue to a non-German speaker is without meaning. It would have to be something quite confronting if you knew the language. I've never seen one of these before so in my ignorance I actually thought it was played by actors who were taking the piss out of the Discovery production and us fans. The actual subtitles were ridiculously self-reflective! It should've been a sequel.. we had one chance, lol!
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