Heroes: "Thanksgiving" 11/23/09 - Grading & Discussion
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I have a bad feeling about this episode. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Where's Lyle in the above picture? Did he age dramatically and is now that middle age man sitting at the table?
Where's Lyle in the above picture? Did he age dramatically and is now that middle age man sitting at the table?
poor Lyle, the forgotten son, maybe they wrote him off the show with no explanation like Judy Winslow from Family Matters, haha
Average.
Every stinking episode after the first season has been average to below-average. The show really needs some fresh writing.
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Every stinking episode after the first season has been average to below-average. The show really needs some fresh writing.
~String
I figure the Bennett scenes will be a snoozefest, but hopefully the episode will be enlivened by the dysfunctional family circus at the Petrelli's.
They're going to have to work hard to outdo the Turkey Day festivities depicted on Dexter last night.
They're going to have to work hard to outdo the Turkey Day festivities depicted on Dexter last night.
How could anyone have voted already? Did it air somewhere?
^i doubt he's watched it yet. He just pre-voted with the assumption it will be average to below average. Which it probably will be.
After two of the stronger episodes the last two weeks, this episode returns right back to the category of "Why did they even bother?"
Below average with a few above average moments--Sylar's return, Gretchen's return and Claire's carving lesson to poor Doug, Angela throwing a dinner while Peter just found out he is Sylar--classic Angela! Other than that the episode felt like it was just adequately going through the motions in taking up an hour.
A few things were confirmed--Samuel killed Joseph, my guess that Samuel's amplified terrakinesis is responsible for the season one disaster Isaac painted on the floor of his studio, Danko was given the compass by Joseph although I'm not sure how smart a move that was by him to bring in mutant-hating Danko. Hiro should be having lots of nosebleeds yet for the most part he seems okay doing more time leaps in the last few episodes with little side effect than when he rarely did them in the first part of the season.
The carnies still aren't that interesting. Samuel is starting to become a tad dull. Still don't care about Lauren. Doug is an idiot. For a Thanksgiving episode it pales in comparison to much better high drama and comedic outbursts around the dinner table. This was one of the poorer efforts I've seen. So much more could have been done with it--which also could be said of the Nathan/Sylar arc that was botched in its execution and as a result a lot of the emotional release that should have accompanied the big moment was absent. It probably doesn't help that the characters have been so poorly handled and the development of their relationships over the last three years has been so hit-or-miss.
Claire is an idiot for even considering joining up with Becky and Samuel at the carnival. The show also seems to be positing the possibility that Nathan's consciousness was somehow transferred into Sylar's body dropping the idea that Nathan's memories were copied while his soul was left behind in his dead body. That would make a resurrection of Nathan a tad more acceptable I suppose.
Below average with a few above average moments--Sylar's return, Gretchen's return and Claire's carving lesson to poor Doug, Angela throwing a dinner while Peter just found out he is Sylar--classic Angela! Other than that the episode felt like it was just adequately going through the motions in taking up an hour.
A few things were confirmed--Samuel killed Joseph, my guess that Samuel's amplified terrakinesis is responsible for the season one disaster Isaac painted on the floor of his studio, Danko was given the compass by Joseph although I'm not sure how smart a move that was by him to bring in mutant-hating Danko. Hiro should be having lots of nosebleeds yet for the most part he seems okay doing more time leaps in the last few episodes with little side effect than when he rarely did them in the first part of the season.
The carnies still aren't that interesting. Samuel is starting to become a tad dull. Still don't care about Lauren. Doug is an idiot. For a Thanksgiving episode it pales in comparison to much better high drama and comedic outbursts around the dinner table. This was one of the poorer efforts I've seen. So much more could have been done with it--which also could be said of the Nathan/Sylar arc that was botched in its execution and as a result a lot of the emotional release that should have accompanied the big moment was absent. It probably doesn't help that the characters have been so poorly handled and the development of their relationships over the last three years has been so hit-or-miss.
Claire is an idiot for even considering joining up with Becky and Samuel at the carnival. The show also seems to be positing the possibility that Nathan's consciousness was somehow transferred into Sylar's body dropping the idea that Nathan's memories were copied while his soul was left behind in his dead body. That would make a resurrection of Nathan a tad more acceptable I suppose.
Below Average
What happened in this episode? Some turkeys got eaten... That's all I can think of.
I really hope that Hiro is not 10 years old once again. That would be terrible.
What happened in this episode? Some turkeys got eaten... That's all I can think of.
I really hope that Hiro is not 10 years old once again. That would be terrible.
why is Peter acting so damn subdued!? dammit his brother's dead & his mom made Sylar pose as him, he should be RAVING! The Bennet thanksgiving scenes were so pointless...
Yeah if anyone wants to see some excellent Thanksgiving hilarity around the dinner table I'd suggest Roseanne--these sucked on Heroes.
HOw many more episodes are left before the show is put out to pasture.
hey wait, wasnt this the episode we were supposed to get some big Peter vs Sylar fight? where was it?
EDIT: Now Im recalling the promo for next week with Pete cornering Sylar, so I guess its next week. I thought it was supposed to happen during the Thanksgiving scene...
EDIT: Now Im recalling the promo for next week with Pete cornering Sylar, so I guess its next week. I thought it was supposed to happen during the Thanksgiving scene...
Next week Peter and Sylar play rock, scissors, paper. Maybe that's the big Heroes fight you're thinking of?
Enjoyed the characters; enjoyed the episode. Beam me up, Scotty!
Poor Lyle. Since when does a high school student have any difficulty "getting away from school" during Thanksgiving Break? Clearly he's been locked in the basement because Sandra has turned his bedroom into a love nest for Mr. and Mrs. Muggles. I doubt we'll hear from him again.
This episode was better than I expected. For a change, all three stories held my interest. Even Claire's story is finding a point - she really is in an impossible situation and to force everyone to acknowledge the truth about her is her only solution but of course she has to try every other route before doing something that dangerous.
The Petrelli Family Circus was as fun and frakked up as I hoped. Peter's decision to treat Sylar as a potential replacement for Nathan, if only he can be whipped into shape, is of course, deeply disturbing. Sadly for Peter, it doesn't seem like a totally out-of-character turn of events for him. He's always been screwed up, and now the death of his brother has put him over the edge and he's drinking Angela's kool-ade.
A healthy reaction would be if he accepted Nathan's death and recognized that this new guy who thinks he's Nathan may not be Nathan, but he's a decent sort of guy and certainly a massive improvement over Sylar. To try to help faux-Nathan survive in lieu of Sylar would be a worthwhile project in its own right. But I kinda like the twisted, desperate and thoroughly deluded Peter instead, even if I know the writers aren't intending to present him that way. This show is going to be interesting despite itself!
And despite the news about Adrian Pasdar, I have this funny feeling* that this season will end with the death of Sylar and a "happy ending" that reunites the Petrelli brothers. In that case, it would be very fitting that Sylar becomes a Petrelli, since they are every bit as deranged and depraved as he is.
*A slight spoiler that I ran across a few days ago is the source of this feeling:
...this show has finally become so bad that it's starting to be good again. We have to take our little victories as they come.
This episode was better than I expected. For a change, all three stories held my interest. Even Claire's story is finding a point - she really is in an impossible situation and to force everyone to acknowledge the truth about her is her only solution but of course she has to try every other route before doing something that dangerous.
The Petrelli Family Circus was as fun and frakked up as I hoped. Peter's decision to treat Sylar as a potential replacement for Nathan, if only he can be whipped into shape, is of course, deeply disturbing.
Sadly for Peter, it doesn't seem like a totally out-of-character turn of events for him. He's always been screwed up, and now the death of his brother has put him over the edge and he's drinking Angela's kool-ade.A healthy reaction would be if he accepted Nathan's death and recognized that this new guy who thinks he's Nathan may not be Nathan, but he's a decent sort of guy and certainly a massive improvement over Sylar. To try to help faux-Nathan survive in lieu of Sylar would be a worthwhile project in its own right. But I kinda like the twisted, desperate and thoroughly deluded Peter instead, even if I know the writers aren't intending to present him that way. This show is going to be interesting despite itself!
And despite the news about Adrian Pasdar, I have this funny feeling* that this season will end with the death of Sylar and a "happy ending" that reunites the Petrelli brothers. In that case, it would be very fitting that Sylar becomes a Petrelli, since they are every bit as deranged and depraved as he is.
*A slight spoiler that I ran across a few days ago is the source of this feeling:
A mutant who can split into two will join the cast. I'm sure we all know where this is headed...
He has retreated into madness. Madness, I say! BWAHAHAHA!!!!
...this show has finally become so bad that it's starting to be good again. We have to take our little victories as they come.
If only Hiro had the ability to go back in time and save Charlie before carnival time travel guy snatched her away. Oh wait...
If nothing else, the way Angela is written and the way Peter is written in response is the only piece of evidence you need for why Tim Kring should never get another show.
Did Nathan/Sylar behead Duncan MacLeod in this episode?
If nothing else, the way Angela is written and the way Peter is written in response is the only piece of evidence you need for why Tim Kring should never get another show.
Did Nathan/Sylar behead Duncan MacLeod in this episode?
I actually enjoyed the episode. Except for Hiro, who continues to irritate me. Seriously, just get rid of this worthless, annoying, and unfunny character please.
Relatively good episode. Does anyone know if the Samuel story is supposed to run through the entire season, or if they're doing half season stories again? 'Cause if they strung this out over ?22? episodes that would be pretty annoying. I'd like to imagine that the story is building to a head now that he knows the nature of his powers but with this show ya never know. Also, the entire Sylar thing is ridiculously strung out. He's coming back...! No wait he isn't. Now Nathan "died" and woke up as Sylar! No wait he went back to being Nathan! Now he's back for real and holding them hostage! No wait Nathan is back in control. Yeesh.
