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Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE)

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Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

I actually liked this epsiode and gave it an 'Above Average'. I don't like Sylar-Nathan, I wish they would have just killed Nathan and been done with it. They could have killed Sylar too for all I care. Volume 5 is just set up for lameness in my opinion.

The actual death of Nathan was pretty cool, and his mom's reaction was quality viewing.

My first thought when Sylar got into the limo with 'The President' was that the president was going to be revealed as a powerful hero in his own right. I kind of wish that had been the case, but I guess having Peter outsmart someone for once in his life works well enough. I liked my idea better though :)

Oh, and I really hate the score for this show. Way too dramatic and pretentious. It really annoyed me this episode. Mohinder's little monologues are in the same category. They should have killed him off too, which would leave Volume 5 with a new 'narrator', or no narrator at all. Either way it would be an improvement.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Really good episode till the end. not enough budget or creativity to show the fight between the brothers and Sylar. Then the convulted idea to make Sylar into Nathan. Why? Nathan does bad stuff on his own. Now you got Sylar thinking he is this megalomaniac Nathan. Hum I wonder what will happen? Oh, a hint in the last 2 minutes. Didn't they do the fake kill someone bring em back as someone else with Micahs mom and her twin?

Love this show, but sometimes they do some lazy/stupid stuff in terms of writing.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

At least give Pasdar the chance to find decent work.

I like the guy too, but let's face it. For him, this is decent work. Once a genre actor, always a genre actor. For every breakout like Harrison Ford, there's a hundred Jeffery Combs working the conventions and waiting for the next shot in Vancouver sci-fi/fantasy series to appear in. You should be thankful he has a job at all in this economic climate.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Heroes? Man, there's gotta be something better for Pasdar than that. If Milo Ventimiglia the wooden can keep getting work, Pasdar should be working constantly. I can picture Pasdar playing the part that Zeljko is playing on Big Love (and will continue playing next season), Nikki's first husband who married her at fifteen and then kept her daughter from her as a condition of allowing Nikki to escape the marriage. A really sinister big bad with charisma. Pasdar would have rocked that part.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Wow, if anyone was wondering whether Heroes was back, that episode had to have laid their fears to rest.
I have watched the show since the beginning and this episode did very little to allay my fears about the status of the show. In fact, if Kring remains as showrunner and Fuller as a consulting producer I see next season being more of the same and I have to say that doesn't exactly excite me at the prospect.

These last few episodes while slightly improved still aren't up to season one standards, Lost standards or standards of a solid drama period. I certainly don't see Fuller as a miracle worker the way many seem to.
What a difference is makes for these characters to be written by good writers who can figure out intelligent and surprising moves for them to make.
I didn't see a whole lot of that in evidence:

Hiro was told he needed to stop using his power. Okay, I understand how he might ignore that advice. Afterall, we are talking about Hiro but you'd think he'd save his possible final act of using his ability for a more critical moment than preventing Danko from injecting Noah.

Second case--Nathan. Knowing full well how powerful Sylar is how did he expect to stop him? No, he goes off by himself. Same thing for Claire. Did she not learn anything from her encounter with the Puppeteer. She didn't even have a gun or weapon in mind to plug him in the back of the head.

Noah going along with Angela's plan. I can understand her being emotionally dazed but Noah should have seen to it that Faux Nathan was killed off and used something like a plane crash as a cover story once he served his role in talking the President into reopening the Company and shutting down the government project. And another lapse in logic is the fact that three episodes or so ago in Mexico Nathan told Claire there was nothing he could do and the President wouldn't see him.

Sylar and Claire...wow, off the ole creep-o-meter. What are the writers going to do when Nathan's personality starts reverting? I'm all for sick & creepy, but they're gonna have to be very careful how they handle that on prime-time network TV.
I'm not sure if this will be something the writers will ever address again and I'm hoping they don't. I found it less creepy and more dumb than anything.
S4 is going to be one hell of a season. I just hope they don't make us wait till January!
I had the exact opposite reaction. This certainly didn't make me wish that tomorrow is September like finales in the past have --ie TNG's "The Best of BOth Worlds", DS9's "Call to Arms", VOY's "Scorpion", Lost's "There's No Place Like Home" or even ENT's "The Expanse".

This show needed a real game changer and for me this wasn't it.
At long last, this show had the guts to really kill someone important. Of course they can't give up Pasdar, and we might not actually lose Nathan in the end
Frankly, I thought it really undercut the death. And why can't they give up Pasdar? I don't see him as an integral component of the series.
To kill Mohinder would not have had a tenth of the dramatic punch.
That's not saying a whole lot. While Nathan's death no doubt carried more weight than Suresh's, the characters have all pretty much been plot devices lacking any real depth that most fans could invest in or care about. Throw in the fact that he has been so inconsistent and unsympathetic that his death really failed dramatically to carry the punch one would expect.
Above all, this show needs guts. It's too easy and complacent, we need to have the sense that yes, anything can happen. There are no fan favorites, there are no sacred cows.
The show does need guts. It needs to be original, fresh and willing to up the stakes, be unpredictable and do mindblowing things. But none of what I saw last night really demonstrated any of those things. The show still is having serious lapses in logic, a problem for me feeling much of anything for these characters outside of Angela and a problem simply measuring up to my standards when it comes to entertainment.

I see a lot of your enthusiasm is coming from what you think they might do creatively next season with this storyline but judging from the show's track record of setting up potentially interesting story directions and then completely botching them I have very little faith. I expect it will be more of the same. Although you might be proven right.

Oh and if the show really wanted to be bold they should have killed off two or three main characters permanently--no twins, no look-alikes, no possibility of resurrections. Let Sylar go on a rampage.:lol: Frankly at this stage I don't have much faith in the writers doing characters so they should adopt the ENT approach and focus on doing big interesting plot arcs where you don't have to be that invested in the characters to enjoy the stories.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Lame. Was I the only one who thought ,"why is Worf/The President crosseyed?" WTF (for the whole season)
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Lame. Was I the only one who thought ,"why is Worf/The President crosseyed?" WTF (for the whole season)

I didn't notice considering Michael Dorn's screentime in his two appearances probably added up to one minute total. :mad:
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Lame. Was I the only one who thought ,"why is Worf/The President crosseyed?" WTF (for the whole season)

It's from all the years of Kilngon make-up he had to wear. It's tragic. :klingon::p
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Aside from this episode, was President Dorn in any others side from the end of Volume 3?
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Why--BTW--couldn't Clare's magic blood heal Nathan like it healed Noah? Did the writers forget? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Indeed -- I mentioned the same thing in my first post in the thread. It's my main complaint in an otherwise serviceable episode, IMO.

If Peter acquires one power at a time, wouldn't he be back to acquiring Clare's power of immortality once he was with her after fighting Sylar.....or is it a touch thing with him? With these lousy writers I can't remember.
I think Peter can now control his power a bit better... that is to say, he can choose whether or not to take someone's power when he touches them -- but yes, he does have to touch them.

Didn't peter say: are you surprised that I stole this one... or something like that.
I took that to mean he can pick and choose which one he wants.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

So is Zachary Quinto off the show now? Or will Sylar re-emerge? I'm not sure how I feel about Nathan being dead but still alive because Sylar is dead and is really Nathan... its all very hard to believe.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

I sincerely doubt Quinto is off the show, as their only hope to keeping the show alive is banking on his Star Trek fame next fall.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

The Good:

-I really did like the Sylar is Nathan/Nathan is Sylar storyline. I think this has great potential for Season 4.
-The Sylar/Claire scene was really cool and Sylar's "What's your brother's name? Larry?" was a great one.
-A new Company
-The return of Worfbama!

The Bad:

-The writers clearly forgot that Claire's blood can cure all. This is such a major plot hole that it cannot be overlooked.
-Speaking of plot holes, can't Matt just "change" President Worfbama's mind about hunting down those with abilities?
-Only getting to see one second of the Nathan/Peter vs Sylar smackdown.

I really enjoyed the episode and as much as I think this Nathan/Sylar storyline can be awesome, I cannot overlook the plot holes.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Something tell me Sylar is going to be pissed when he finds out that all of his memories have been erased.
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Something tell me Sylar is going to be pissed when he finds out that all of his memories have been erased.
But if his memories have been erased, how's he going to know to be pissed? :shifty:
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Above Average (for Season Three)


Next season looks interesting. I hope they are able to do something interesting with Nathan/Sylar.

It would be cool to see Nathan and Sylar locked in a Jekyl/Hyde existence (or Banner/Hulk, if you prefer).
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

Blame the writers for componding there problems. Back In season 2.. lets kill Noah for the shock value..Ok..how can we get him back? ..hmm lets use Claires blood. We can also use her blood at the end of volume 2 to quickly give Sylar back his powers too!! Wow this plot device gave use easy fixs for 2 things we want to do..

.. Season 3 rolls around.. ah shit everyone is going to expect us to use claires blood to heal everyone..crap we opened pandora's box there.. what do we do?? Easy lets just forget about that plot line.. the fans won't remember it was way back in season 2!!
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

It does seem like they either forgot about Claire's blood or they were hoping we did. You know, it really wouldn't have been so hard to get around this: just have something happen to Claire that rendered her blood unusable. Maybe some sort of experiment she was subjected to altered her blood in some way; maybe it could be a side effect of the whole being numb to pain thing she was whining about at the beginning of Volume 3; or maybe Ando supercharges her -- what happens then? She's already an immortal whose wounds always heal... perhaps it could make her skin impenetrable (like the Haitian's brother), and thus make it impossible to get blood out of her.

So many possibilities...
 
Re: Heroes 3x25 "An Invisible Thread" Discuss and Grade (SEASON FINALE

perhaps it could make her skin impenetrable

So many possibilities...

As long as other things remain penetrable, then it's all good.. :) :)
 
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