Heroes 3x19 "Shades of Gray" Discuss and Grade
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Gave it an average. Who didn't see John Glover as a frail old man comming. Great actor, but I'm pretty much sick of that cliche. It would have been nice to see Sylar see his old man and he is in Lionel Luthor form. Someone who rivaled Linderman in power and status but was smart enough to keep his powers under wraps and had enough influence to stay out of the government's radar. Someone who could have out-Sylared Sylar and put him out of his misery because, let's face it, we've seen the Borgification of Sylar. Remember when Sylar first came on the scene? He was the malevolent force of nature whose motivation was driven by the acquisition of power. alone. Then after the season, the seaso where he should have died and stay dead, he became a fan favorite and TPTB were comming up with excuses to keep him around. De-powering him, making him walk the moral tightrope, switching sides, making him have emo daddy issues, essentially neutering him. Even Quinto's look and mannerisms are laughable now. He acts like those emo goth kids who hang around Hot Topic. For Glover's character to take him out and become the new big baddie would only improve the show.
The writers should have had some line explaining why Ando hasn't already tried super-charging Peter (or Hiro, for that matter...as it might give him his powers back). Does Ando not trust Peter and Matt enough to tell them about his new powers? It would be a decent explanation, but the writers seem to have avoided the subject entirely (making it seem as if Ando just hasn't considered using his powers on them...which is ridiculous).
Wasn't Matt there when Ando got his powers? I think I remember that Matt and Daphne were the ones who injected Ando with the serum in the first place???
He has already shown multiple natural abilities, so it's not that big of a stretch. Perhaps all "heroes" have the ability to use multiple powers and just don't know how to tap into their full potential.
Wasn't Matt there when Ando got his powers? I think I remember that Matt and Daphne were the ones who injected Ando with the serum in the first place???
Yeah, I think I remember that...which means Matt should have also suggested super-charging Peter (if only so that Peter could fly them all to safety much faster).
Ah okay, it's not legit mind control. Then Matt better handle it.
Sylar can't be Magneto, because Magneto cares about mutants while Sylar has contempt for them. I could see him taking over Danko's antagonistic role, tho (once he's done the head-chop routine on Danko, who can't see that coming?) The way metahumans are popping up all over, doesn't seem likely he'll run out of food soon.
Only if they also return the S1 idea that using powers will harm his health. (That was never 100% resolved was it? Adding more powers should bring the old problem back as he reaches the limit he was previously able to cope with.)
Anything that inhibits his use of powers will work - if he has the powers and has some good reason to not use them every ten seconds.
And attempting time travel will kill him!
Oooh, here's an idea: Peter gets all the powers in the world, with a catch. Every one is one-time use only.
Sylar has been a garbled mess from the start. One of the very first things we learned about him is that he scrawled FORGIVE ME on the apartment wall where he lived. And I think I remember religious symbolism in that scene, too.
I was halfway expecting some gibbering, guilt-ridden wreck who had a Jeckle/Hyde complex rather than the more or less together serial killer he turned out to be. That clue pointed pretty strongly to him not being in control of his behavior. Subsequently, we've had every explanation imaginable what he's after and just how much control has over himself. I just want Fuller to pick the best explanation for the character and the story going forward, explain it clearly, and stick to it like glue.
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I actually liked this episode. Felt like old Heroes at times although the show will never return to its former glory.
-John Glover was good.
-Claire once again proves how stupid she is by helping Doyle. She really forgave him over that whole "trying to kill me and my mothers" thing. That last scene though, where Doyle gave her the creepy smile was good though.
-So, the Hunter finally found out that Nathan can fly. Of course, he could have found that out weeks ago if it weren't for the fact that the heroes...I mean, the morons with powers viewed keeping Nathan's secret to be the most important thing in their lives. Despite what Nathan was doing to them.
-Speaking of Nathan...now he's a fugitive. Oy. First, he inexplicably tries to get them all thrown into jail and now he's managed to become a fugitive himself. And we're supposed to feel bad for him?
-John Glover was good.
-Claire once again proves how stupid she is by helping Doyle. She really forgave him over that whole "trying to kill me and my mothers" thing. That last scene though, where Doyle gave her the creepy smile was good though.
-So, the Hunter finally found out that Nathan can fly. Of course, he could have found that out weeks ago if it weren't for the fact that the heroes...I mean, the morons with powers viewed keeping Nathan's secret to be the most important thing in their lives. Despite what Nathan was doing to them.
-Speaking of Nathan...now he's a fugitive. Oy. First, he inexplicably tries to get them all thrown into jail and now he's managed to become a fugitive himself. And we're supposed to feel bad for him?
Assuming he can do the head-chop.
Mohinder did hit Danko with a car door to the face and he was Ok a few moments later, he didn't even have a bruise.
Hmmmm
Magneto would react to a direct threat by destroying those responsible.
I watched it, and i'm not completely sure it was on.
Magneto from the shitty third movie: "You sacrifice pawns."
However Sylar is Galactus.
Has to feed.
beyond good and evil.
What is the POINT of this volume? Six episodes in NOTHING has happened of consequence at all.
At least vol.2 had a good closing 4 episodes and Vol.3 had genuine shock value. This is just insipid.
At least vol.2 had a good closing 4 episodes and Vol.3 had genuine shock value. This is just insipid.
A step up from the rest of the season. Had some wobbly points. Because I don't respect the character, I have a hard time with Claire as a key operative in the underground railroad. I'm also finding the less I see of Ando and Hiro's comedy act, the better. Even so, an Above Average episode in my estimation.
Just like the last volume!
This show needs a direction - ANY direction.
If Danko ends up being a mutant, I will vomit.
That is far too big of a cliche to be remotely tolerable. Everyone does not need a power err excuse me "ability."
Just like the last volume!
This show needs a direction - ANY direction.
If Danko ends up being a mutant, I will vomit.
You head of Roy Cohn? Senator McCarthy's chief bulldog lawyer and gayer than a handbag full of rainbows? In a reasonable comic called Red menace where McCarthy went after the the Supermen instead of the commies and the homos... Roy turned out to be a Super Villain.
"Sigh"
I'm not exactly sure what means, but the answer is definitely NO!
I'm not exactly sure what means, but the answer is definitely NO!
Fans of Al Pacino might remember that he played Roy Cohn in the miniseries Angels In America (2003), based on the play by Tony Kushner. Granted, the story is fictional, but the Roy Cohn that Pacino plays is very much modelled after the real-life version.
As far as Danko's concerned, I don't know. All I know is that, given what we see at the end of this episode, Danko's definitely gonna have to have some sort of trick up his sleeve if he's going to avoid having his head sliced open! And judging from his seemingly genuine reaction of surprise and puzzlement at seeing the stuffed rabbit in his apartment, this may be the one time our unfriendly-neighborhood Hunter doesn't have an ace in the hole!
