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"The Eclipse, Part 1" An eclipse casts a shadow over the heroes, impacting their abilities.
HEROES 3x10 "The Eclipse, Part 1" Discuss and Grade
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it was worth it for the sweaty Petrellis. 
Below Average. What an absolute mess. A bunch of character doing stuff I could care less about in an episode that felt like it was hours long. Sylar and Elle are a complete mess. Now Sylar is glad to be normal all of a sudden when last season he couldn't stand it. About the only good thing in this episode was HRG and the Haitian.
BTW...Dorian, I changed my mind. Claire can die now. She serves no purpose whatsoever.
BTW...Dorian, I changed my mind. Claire can die now. She serves no purpose whatsoever.
Ahhhh, Darth. I knew you'd see the light eventually. 
She's pretty, but she really is a contemptible brat, isn't she? The sweaty Petrellis were just about the only positive for me. They've even ruined Nathan and Tracy by making Tracy go over to Arthur's side.
No, if only the Petrellis would argue and Nathan would once say, "I'm pissed off because you shot me!!!" But no. They won't go there. At this point, I'm invested in no one. Adrian Pasdar needs to saunter on over to Supernatural and play one of those sexy as hell conflicted male angels who's never seen the face of God. Between him, Misha Collins, Jensen Ackles, and Jared Padalecki it would be beefcake-a-palooza.
She's pretty, but she really is a contemptible brat, isn't she? The sweaty Petrellis were just about the only positive for me. They've even ruined Nathan and Tracy by making Tracy go over to Arthur's side. No, if only the Petrellis would argue and Nathan would once say, "I'm pissed off because you shot me!!!" But no. They won't go there. At this point, I'm invested in no one. Adrian Pasdar needs to saunter on over to Supernatural and play one of those sexy as hell conflicted male angels who's never seen the face of God. Between him, Misha Collins, Jensen Ackles, and Jared Padalecki it would be beefcake-a-palooza.
I will pass on that, thank you. Pasdar doesn't do anything for me at all (but it certainly could be his character who I can't stand. I don't recall him from anything else). I mean I actually like Peter (though the actor seriously needs some lessons, take him to Jared's coach, it couldn't hurt).Ahhhh, Darth. I knew you'd see the light eventually.
No, if only the Petrellis would argue and Nathan would once say, "I'm pissed off because you shot me!!!" But no. They won't go there. At this point, I'm invested in no one. Adrian Pasdar needs to saunter on over to Supernatural and play one of those sexy as hell conflicted male angels who's never seen the face of God. Between him, Misha Collins, Jensen Ackles, and Jared Padalecki it would be beefcake-a-palooza.
I thought it was a pretty good episode for the most part, except for the Sylar/Elle storyline. First she tries to make him a villian again and then after they lost their powers she was crying about how she was the one who made him a monster? 
Seeing Hiro similar to his season 1 character again is pure joy though.
Seeing Hiro similar to his season 1 character again is pure joy though.
Pasdar does a great deal for me. Heh. At least he can act. More than I can say for Milo. You can't see Pasdar as a tortured angel a la Castiel? 
Jared's acting coach is a miracle worker. The boy was barely average during the first season. His growth in talent (and muscles) has been nothing short of amazing.
At least he can act. More than I can say for Milo. You can't see Pasdar as a tortured angel a la Castiel? Jared's acting coach is a miracle worker. The boy was barely average during the first season. His growth in talent (and muscles) has been nothing short of amazing.
Claire's still cute as hell. Just useless and an annoying brat. It's funny that she and Thomas "John Connor" Dekker were buddies during Heroes Season 1. Those two characters would be perfect for each other.
Useless and annoying is right. If Hayden didn't have a sweater full of goodies, what would she bring to the table?
Pasdar might be a better actor, I just can't stand the character Nathan. Milo sucks as an actor but I like the character of Peter. Though someone needs to wire his jaw muscles, its like he thinks thats the only way to convey emotion.Pasdar does a great deal for me. Heh.
Jared's acting coach is a miracle worker. The boy was barely average during the first season. His growth in talent (and muscles) has been nothing short of amazing.
I give this episode an Average.
Ok, let me get this straight, after many episodes of Sylar being good and resisting the urge to kill, and last episode figuring out a peaceful way to take someone's powers, all of a sudden, he is evil again. But wait! When he loses his powers he's happy, because he doesn't have to kill anymore. Uh...what? Plus, Elle was totally out of character too. So far this season we've seen a changed Elle from the demented one of Season 2, but here at the beginning of this episode, seemingly right after Sylar spared her life and they confessed their love, she turns evil once more and starts manipulating Sylar. And then, when she loses her powers she becomes good again (like she was last episode when she had her powers). Did two different people write this episode without consulting each other? Or did the writer not watch any of Season 3?
I was happy with the Hiro storyline, though I'm still mad that they reset the character back to square one. I was also pleasantly surprised by the ending that showed Daphne in those leg braces. I thought that was an interesting character development.
What I didn't like about the Daphne storyline was how she just ran away for seemingly no reason. Oh yeah, it was because Matt "paused". Again, it was another example of the plot making absolutely no sense.
Don't shows usually make it seem that the villains are going to win, but somehow the good guys squeak out a victory against incredible odds? Well, Heroes has done the exact opposite. After tonight's episode, I have no doubt that the good guys are going to defeat the villains. Arthur was busy painting his apocalyptic paintings and worrying about them to a great degree, but doing absolutely nothing about it. This episode consisted of Arthur threatening Mohinder to find a cure "or else". Or else what? Or else the villains lose? Oh no! Not that! Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur and his rogue gallery bite the dust because, get this, Mohinder turns on them. Who doesn't see that "plot twist" coming? Yes, the writers of Heroes have reduced the "villains" to a gaggle of bumbling fools who, I have no doubt, will get pwned by the "good guys" very shortly.
Oh yeah, and lest I forget, we have Nathan, Peter, and "the Haitian", out on some quest to neutralize the Haitian's brother Baron Samedi. Thank you Heroes for giving us another meaningless subplot for us to be bored about. But there's guns! And explosions! And Haitians!
But as you noticed, I gave this episode an average rating. Why? Because taking in Season 3 as a whole, this has been par for the course so far.
Ok, let me get this straight, after many episodes of Sylar being good and resisting the urge to kill, and last episode figuring out a peaceful way to take someone's powers, all of a sudden, he is evil again. But wait! When he loses his powers he's happy, because he doesn't have to kill anymore
. Uh...what? Plus, Elle was totally out of character too. So far this season we've seen a changed Elle from the demented one of Season 2, but here at the beginning of this episode, seemingly right after Sylar spared her life and they confessed their love, she turns evil once more and starts manipulating Sylar. And then, when she loses her powers she becomes good again (like she was last episode when she had her powers). Did two different people write this episode without consulting each other? Or did the writer not watch any of Season 3?I was happy with the Hiro storyline, though I'm still mad that they reset the character back to square one. I was also pleasantly surprised by the ending that showed Daphne in those leg braces. I thought that was an interesting character development.
What I didn't like about the Daphne storyline was how she just ran away for seemingly no reason. Oh yeah, it was because Matt "paused". Again, it was another example of the plot making absolutely no sense.
Don't shows usually make it seem that the villains are going to win, but somehow the good guys squeak out a victory against incredible odds? Well, Heroes has done the exact opposite. After tonight's episode, I have no doubt that the good guys are going to defeat the villains. Arthur was busy painting his apocalyptic paintings and worrying about them to a great degree, but doing absolutely nothing about it. This episode consisted of Arthur threatening Mohinder to find a cure "or else". Or else what? Or else the villains lose? Oh no! Not that! Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Arthur and his rogue gallery bite the dust because, get this, Mohinder turns on them. Who doesn't see that "plot twist" coming? Yes, the writers of Heroes have reduced the "villains" to a gaggle of bumbling fools who, I have no doubt, will get pwned by the "good guys" very shortly.
Oh yeah, and lest I forget, we have Nathan, Peter, and "the Haitian", out on some quest to neutralize the Haitian's brother Baron Samedi. Thank you Heroes for giving us another meaningless subplot for us to be bored about. But there's guns! And explosions! And Haitians!
But as you noticed, I gave this episode an average rating. Why? Because taking in Season 3 as a whole, this has been par for the course so far.
Spot on, her powers bring nothing to the show past this chapter and any idiot can use a gun. Infact the whole catalyst thing seems a deseperate attempt to keep her character useful. After this season Claire needs to be removed so we can concentrate on viable characters.
They better not mak Sylar evil again for a bit of totty, seriously Kring WTF is with your slide in writing when it comes to fleshing out the characters, we do need Bryan Fuller back.
Am still pissed that Kring decided against Daphne/Hiro because the whole love thing with Matt is too quick and 100% unbelievable (How they fuck can they use the word LOVE so soon). Matt Also for me is like Claire and has limited use for the future past season 3.
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That was the freaking longest eclipse I've ever seen.
No real interest with any of the plotlines this week. Sylar/Elle are a mess, like others have said, and Elle feels like a completely different character every week. The Petrelli plot felt completely disconnected from everything else. Hiro/Ando were amusin in places at least. Matt/Daphone I'm still torn on, but I liked the little revelation at the end. Suresh and Claire both can't die fast enough to make me happy.
Average.
No real interest with any of the plotlines this week. Sylar/Elle are a mess, like others have said, and Elle feels like a completely different character every week. The Petrelli plot felt completely disconnected from everything else. Hiro/Ando were amusin in places at least. Matt/Daphone I'm still torn on, but I liked the little revelation at the end. Suresh and Claire both can't die fast enough to make me happy.
Average.
Ok, let me get this straight, after many episodes of Sylar being good and resisting the urge to kill, and last episode figuring out a peaceful way to take someone's powers, all of a sudden, he is evil again. But wait! When he loses his powers he's happy, because he doesn't have to kill anymore
Elle is an nut in Season 2 and then last week, we learn that she hadn't been a nut the previous year but a sweet girl. Now she's a nut again. I just don't get it.
They've gotten away from the Hiro/Daphne "nemesis" thing. Ando/Daphne would be a pretty cool pairing.
All's I can really say after an episode like that was, "what the crap was that??".
Good lord, I can tolerate alot of incoherence in the name of enjoying a sci-fi show but the Sylar storyline has gotten to be just outright insane.
The other storylines aren't much better.
This show needs help. And I've actually enjoyed this season up to this point.
Good lord, I can tolerate alot of incoherence in the name of enjoying a sci-fi show but the Sylar storyline has gotten to be just outright insane.
The other storylines aren't much better.
This show needs help. And I've actually enjoyed this season up to this point.
I've said for some time that Heroes season one will never be topped. Like a lot of artists' it seems Kring simply can't top his debut of season one.
I wasn't particularly impressed with the two hour season premiere but I was willing to give the season a go. Afterall, I figured all the hype I heard over the summer might have created too high an expectation and launching into a new season arc isn't always pretty or graceful.
I've heard many complaints about Heroes--too many characters, too soap opera-ish, too many threads etc. But I don't necessarily see those as weaknesses. They were afterall very much a part of the series in the much praised first year. I think the problem is that Kring is trying to do shorter volumes.
With season one you had a whole year to develop and do justice to the ideas, mysteries, characters and situations. Here with 13 episodes there is too much and as a result it feels less like the organic synchronized storytelling of season one has become more of a case of doing as much reshuffling and moving of characters about like chess pieces as they can without allowing the interesting threads or situations the characters end up in to be exploited to any great effect.
We should have less jumping almost immediately from one new character pairing and situation to another almost every episode and try to develop some of them. This was also a failing in season two. What worked, I think, in season one was the three episode mini arcs(the build up to the Homecoming climax, Niki on the run, Niki in jail, Peter/Claude training, Sylar/Suresh in the middle of the season, Claire's discovery of her biological parents and anger at Noah, the build up to the Explosion Climax).
The series I fell in love with in year one had a massive character roster, tons of plot threads, and was fast paced although I do sometimes like the idea of Heroes adopting a more traditional serialized format where you have a more modest ensemble and a few plot threads for them to inhabit.
I still enjoy the show but I find I'm not as compelled to focus as much attention and effort into it as I once did. I used to want to discuss it and analyze it almost all week until the next episode but now I just watch it and move on. I don't think it is awful. I think it is a decent show and entertaining enough. It is just that what was once an extraordinary show has become ordinary.
As for this week's installment-- I thought it was fair. It did what Heroes does so well--has interesting cliffhangers, curiosity-piquing teasers, throws characters together and holds your attention. The most interesting revelations, I thought, were the eclipse taking away the abilities and Daphne being a cripple. The least interesting thing as has been this season was Hiro/Ando's adventures.
I enjoyed the comic book being a guide for the characters in season one but now it is silly especially since I doubt this was one illustrated by Isaac. Is there another precog comic book artist? And why erase Hiro's memories to a ten year old? Just take them away unless he wanted him to forget about him being alive.
I don't care either away about a potential psychopath romantic pairing between Elle and Sylar. I wonder how far the writers will go with them as a superpowered Bonnie and Clyde.
I wasn't particularly impressed with the two hour season premiere but I was willing to give the season a go. Afterall, I figured all the hype I heard over the summer might have created too high an expectation and launching into a new season arc isn't always pretty or graceful.
I've heard many complaints about Heroes--too many characters, too soap opera-ish, too many threads etc. But I don't necessarily see those as weaknesses. They were afterall very much a part of the series in the much praised first year. I think the problem is that Kring is trying to do shorter volumes.
With season one you had a whole year to develop and do justice to the ideas, mysteries, characters and situations. Here with 13 episodes there is too much and as a result it feels less like the organic synchronized storytelling of season one has become more of a case of doing as much reshuffling and moving of characters about like chess pieces as they can without allowing the interesting threads or situations the characters end up in to be exploited to any great effect.
We should have less jumping almost immediately from one new character pairing and situation to another almost every episode and try to develop some of them. This was also a failing in season two. What worked, I think, in season one was the three episode mini arcs(the build up to the Homecoming climax, Niki on the run, Niki in jail, Peter/Claude training, Sylar/Suresh in the middle of the season, Claire's discovery of her biological parents and anger at Noah, the build up to the Explosion Climax).
The series I fell in love with in year one had a massive character roster, tons of plot threads, and was fast paced although I do sometimes like the idea of Heroes adopting a more traditional serialized format where you have a more modest ensemble and a few plot threads for them to inhabit.
I still enjoy the show but I find I'm not as compelled to focus as much attention and effort into it as I once did. I used to want to discuss it and analyze it almost all week until the next episode but now I just watch it and move on. I don't think it is awful. I think it is a decent show and entertaining enough. It is just that what was once an extraordinary show has become ordinary.
As for this week's installment-- I thought it was fair. It did what Heroes does so well--has interesting cliffhangers, curiosity-piquing teasers, throws characters together and holds your attention. The most interesting revelations, I thought, were the eclipse taking away the abilities and Daphne being a cripple. The least interesting thing as has been this season was Hiro/Ando's adventures.
I enjoyed the comic book being a guide for the characters in season one but now it is silly especially since I doubt this was one illustrated by Isaac. Is there another precog comic book artist? And why erase Hiro's memories to a ten year old? Just take them away unless he wanted him to forget about him being alive.
I don't care either away about a potential psychopath romantic pairing between Elle and Sylar. I wonder how far the writers will go with them as a superpowered Bonnie and Clyde.
Below average. Very disappointed. Felt like complete filler.
What the hell is going on with Sylar? So he is evil or good or Spock now? I can care less about Peter and Nathan going to Haiti. They turned Hiro into a baby. Didn't the writers learn from season 2's Peter has amnesia plot how stupid that is? Claire gets shot? So what? We all know they aren't killing her. *sigh*
Noah as always was the only good thing about this episode. Happy to see him kick ass. I'm sad that he has been pretty much neglected for the entire season.
What the hell is going on with Sylar? So he is evil or good or Spock now? I can care less about Peter and Nathan going to Haiti. They turned Hiro into a baby. Didn't the writers learn from season 2's Peter has amnesia plot how stupid that is? Claire gets shot? So what? We all know they aren't killing her. *sigh*
Noah as always was the only good thing about this episode. Happy to see him kick ass. I'm sad that he has been pretty much neglected for the entire season.