Heresy??? [SPOILERS]

[Oso Blanco]

Re: Heresy???

I'm perfectly fine with starting the TOS years fresh, and not being beholden to all the continuity of the past 40 years. I loved all that stuff at the time, but I don't think I could stand to explore any more of it.

Then why don't you go and find another SciFi Show to watch?

If you throw all the established canon out of the airlock, Star Trek won't be Star Trek anymore. It would be just another SciFi Show!

The only thing that would save the new movie from complete incredibility is to create a new timeline, so that they can do whatever they have to do without harming the Trek Universe as we know it.

 

[chardman]

Here's what I think.

Kirk in an Enterprise escape pod = something really bad has happened to Enterprise, up to and including its destruction.

Later (presumably) in a wholly unfamiliar bridge, Spock throttles Kirk, almost as if he didn't trust Kirk, or even know who he was. Kirk is dressed differently than everyone else, and the text accompanying the shot of Kirk in the big chair says that this is part of/explained by the plot.

My thoughts: Something the Romulans do causes a time split. In one timeline, the Enterprise is destroyed (the heresy), and only Kirk survives.

In the other timeline, Kirk is long dead (or was never born).

Old Spock does something which temporarily brings the two timelines together, and timeline #1's Kirk is introduced to timeline #2's Kirkless Enterprise crew. Now old Spock must convince young Spock that he must trust/obey/befriend this total stranger, so that the two timelines can be fully reintegrated, and history set right.

Or maybe not.

 

[Ovation]

I predict that all will be made clear in May 2009 when the movie premieres. Just sayin'

 

[Kelso]

I'm hoping to see Nero kill Sarek and Amanda... causing nuSpock to grow up as an orphan.

 

[JD]

I'm open to changes as long as the movie is good. I just hope that if things are different, and they want us to accept it as the same Trekverse that we are used to, that they have a reasonable explanation for the changes.

 

[seigezunt]

I'm very interested to see what this "heresy" will be. I can only assume, if this is a quality production, that any divergence from the "canon" would have a good reason for it, to tell a good story, or to remove something that has been an obstacle for good storytelling.

Hm. Given that last point, I'd wonder if they might delete or change the Prime Directive in some substantial way, considering how it has always gotten in the way of telling a good adventure story.

My point though is that, if they are going to bother to diverge in a way that they think some fans will utter "horrors!" I can only hope it's for a good reason. And it sounds like it would be, or at least if it was random, they probably wouldn't think to mention it.

And that it sounds like it isn't just going to be some minor detail.

There's also the option, that they might be playing with us, and it's a "heresy" that gets reversed in the movie. Hope it's not that, or at least, I hope I'm not waiting for that, and it doesn't happen. Like waiting for the Shat to appear.

 

[Sector 7]

Here's what I think.

Kirk in an Enterprise escape pod = something really bad has happened to Enterprise, up to and including its destruction.

Later (presumably) in a wholly unfamiliar bridge, Spock throttles Kirk, almost as if he didn't trust Kirk, or even know who he was. Kirk is dressed differently than everyone else, and the text accompanying the shot of Kirk in the big chair says that this is part of/explained by the plot.

My thoughts: Something the Romulans do causes a time split. In one timeline, the Enterprise is destroyed (the heresy), and only Kirk survives.

In the other timeline, Kirk is long dead (or was never born).

Old Spock does something which temporarily brings the two timelines together, and timeline #1's Kirk is introduced to timeline #2's Kirkless Enterprise crew. Now old Spock must convince young Spock that he must trust/obey/befriend this total stranger, so that the two timelines can be fully reintegrated, and history set right.

Or maybe not.

This is one of the best ideas I've seen yet, chardman. It makes sense, IMO. I also think it would tell a good story.