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Here it is - no bloody "A", "B" "C" or "D"

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I actually really like the new nacelles, too, but I wish there were more space between the nacelles and the saucer. Anyway, I won't know what I think until I see it in motion, or firing phasers, or something.
 
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I was going through my picture gallery and interestingly enough, the pics of the new Enterprise and the Enterprise-C were right next to each other.
 
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I'm not completely sold on the nacelles yet, but I like the rest of the ship. I want to see more of it (especially in motion) before I make my final decision about the ship.
 
I don't even know where to start with this.

It looks like a parody of the TMP design more than anything else. The nacelles are massive and ugly as sin. The engineering hull seems far too small in proportion to the saucer and nacelles. The deflector cowling juts out too far from the ship.

Ugly, ugly, ugly.
I agree -- it's pretty fugly. The saucer section being relatively clean and circular seems like it has a different design aesthetic from the bumpy, swoopy, weird shapes of the nacelles and secondary hulls/pylon.

More importantly, I don't see mass audiences geeking out about it . . . it doesn't look menacing or "cool" the way a lot of Star Wars ships look, and the fact that it's so recognizable as a Star Trek movie ship suggests its ultimate appeal will be to sci-fi fans rather than mass audiences.
 
As a designer, I think this will do fine. It's a lot better than the Enterprise-E. I'd like to see a comparison pic with the NX-01 to see if there is an obvious evolution anywhere. I'd also like to hear an opinion from uber-designers Mr. Probert and Mr. Sternbach, if they are lurking about. I know that both are too gentlemanly to be outright critical, but a designers impression would be much appreciated from both.

I can't say that I'm terribly excited about this particular design; some individual parts look interesting, but it doesn't work for me as a whole. Plus the fact that the Bussard collectors (if indeed the new designers knew how they're supposed to work) don't have a clear line of sight to open space would seem to screw up that part of the ship. What suddenly hits me about this ship is the potentially weird and bizarre and crazy left-field thought that because of some timeline manipulation in the film, this is the Enterprise for a good portion of the story, and when everything is set straight, the crew is back on the good old light/medium gray TOS Enterprise, on the good old familiar black/gray/red bridge, and JJ will have toyed with us the whole time. Would make for a nice surprise, no? :)

Rick
www.spacemodelsystems.com

You know its funny that you say that. I remember an interview with someone behind the scenes, long before any photos came out, I can't remember who, and that person said that at the end of the pic, when they are all on the bridge,it felt like Trek. I wish I could find that news bit. I think that maybe this lends credence to what you are saying.. that this si not the final E
 
Damn.

The saucer's clean, the nacelles are brilliant, the neck curves classically, but the secondary hull's a withered hand; proportioned like a congenital defect, it hooks grotesquely under the primary hull as though an ambitious posture somehow compensates for the deformation -- but the effort only adds to one's subliminal urge to look away from cheated beauty with revulsion.
 
Damn.

The saucer's clean, the nacelles are brilliant, the neck curves classically, but the secondary hull's a withered hand; proportioned like a congenital defect, it hooks grotesquely under the primary hull as though an ambitious posture somehow compensates for the deformation -- but the effort only adds to one's subliminal urge to look away from cheated beauty with revulsion.

Yea, the secondary hull does have a somewhat penile thrusting forward to it. Goes with the Ford muscle car nacelles?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here. :p
 
Damn.

The saucer's clean, the nacelles are brilliant, the neck curves classically, but the secondary hull's a withered hand; proportioned like a congenital defect, it hooks grotesquely under the primary hull as though an ambitious posture somehow compensates for the deformation -- but the effort only adds to one's subliminal urge to look away from cheated beauty with revulsion.

Yea, the secondary hull does have a somewhat penile thrusting forward to it. Goes with the Ford muscle car nacelles?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here. :p

Freud should rise from the grave and write a paper about this post ;)
 
OK, as has been sort of tipped on earlier. What if what we are seeing is the Enterprise just launched into orbit? The cowels over and under the nacelles could be aerodynamcs/scramjets that get jettisoned. This would help explain why the bussards are dark in this image and after jettisoning, leaving the nacelles much more reminiscent of TOS.
 
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I took it into Photoshop and pushed the drive section back just a bit. That's my only problem with this new Enterprise is that it looks too squished.

Look any better?
 
OK, as has been sort of tipped on earlier. What if what we are seeing is the Enterprise just launched into orbit? The cowels over and under the nacelles could be aerodynamcs/scramjets that get jettisoned. This would help explain why the bussards are dark in this image and after jettisoning, leaving the nacelles much more reminiscent of TOS.

you're suggesting jupiter1/jupiter2 from the lis movie
 
Not overly impressed right at first but its growing on me a bit, I think the modifications pushing the eng hull back look much better. To me though even if the shape were the same (and yeah this is a nitpick) I wish some of the smaller details were more like the tos ship...just little things like the saucer rim/window placement looks just like the movie refit without taking the tos ship into account at all. Looks kinda like the front of the nacelles darkened as they are kinda echo the refits (even though the spheres are there).

Just a similar angle comparison.

 
Honestly, before the uniforms were revealed, I was expecting something extremely different, after the uniforms, I was expecting something close. This is sorta a compromise of my two thoughts. I think I'll echo the thoughts that the nacelles (and the neck of the ship) make the thing look a bit too crowded. But, overall, I can't complain. I love the deflector and I do think the ship looks big, which is a plus.
 
As a designer, I think this will do fine. It's a lot better than the Enterprise-E. I'd like to see a comparison pic with the NX-01 to see if there is an obvious evolution anywhere. I'd also like to hear an opinion from uber-designers Mr. Probert and Mr. Sternbach, if they are lurking about. I know that both are too gentlemanly to be outright critical, but a designers impression would be much appreciated from both.

I can't say that I'm terribly excited about this particular design; some individual parts look interesting, but it doesn't work for me as a whole. Plus the fact that the Bussard collectors (if indeed the new designers knew how they're supposed to work) don't have a clear line of sight to open space would seem to screw up that part of the ship. What suddenly hits me about this ship is the potentially weird and bizarre and crazy left-field thought that because of some timeline manipulation in the film, this is the Enterprise for a good portion of the story, and when everything is set straight, the crew is back on the good old light/medium gray TOS Enterprise, on the good old familiar black/gray/red bridge, and JJ will have toyed with us the whole time. Would make for a nice surprise, no? :)

Rick
www.spacemodelsystems.com

You know its funny that you say that. I remember an interview with someone behind the scenes, long before any photos came out, I can't remember who, and that person said that at the end of the pic, when they are all on the bridge,it felt like Trek. I wish I could find that news bit. I think that maybe this lends credence to what you are saying.. that this si not the final E
Sounds like Harry Knowles' report after having seen some footage, back in June: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37248
 
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