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Hera Story

Trekboy1993

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Could the story of USS Hera be unfinished could Captain La Forge and her crew just be lost maybe in the Delta Quadrant and took the long route home or lost in the Gamma Quadrant and dealing with The Dominion. Could it be in another Universe like the USS Defiant? Maybe we could see it in an episode of Discovery. We have endless possibilities I just don't think that the ship was destroyed. Somewhere that ship is out there waiting to be found or return home. The good thing is she was a Nebula-class ship and those things punch above their weight class.
 
What makes me wonder more is how the probe's exposure to heat caused Geordie's hands to literally burn....

I mean, I can understand the sensation of burning, but the physical reality of heat?
 
Doing your own stigmata is sort of intuitive - sharp implements are built in to our physique, right where it counts. But the means of creating burns? Did he "psychosomatically" rub his hands together real fast?

There's an obvious feedback mechanism in the control suit: that's the whole point, really. But we see nothing on LaForge's hands except for the burns and a couple of cables connecting to the back of his hand. Should we perhaps assume the hands were covered with intricate instrumentation, including feedback systems, on the palm side as well?

Thanks to the design of the rig, we don't actually see his hands before he raises them to show the burns - so perhaps he yanked out the palm-side devices that had burned him and then raised his hands to show the wounds?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Doing your own stigmata is sort of intuitive - sharp implements are built in to our physique, right where it counts. But the means of creating burns? Did he "psychosomatically" rub his hands together real fast?

There's an obvious feedback mechanism in the control suit: that's the whole point, really. But we see nothing on LaForge's hands except for the burns and a couple of cables connecting to the back of his hand. Should we perhaps assume the hands were covered with intricate instrumentation, including feedback systems, on the palm side as well?

Thanks to the design of the rig, we don't actually see his hands before he raises them to show the burns - so perhaps he yanked out the palm-side devices that had burned him and then raised his hands to show the wounds?

Timo Saloniemi

Really relies on a contrived series of events that just happen to result in injuries which just happen to parallel the events affecting the probe.

On the other hand it's hard to believe the rig would have any feedback mechanism built in which would go beyond providing the wearer with information and actually harm them in sympathy with damage to the probe.
 
I wish they had used the Hera in Voyager instead of the Equinox. The fact that the Hera could out gun Voyager would make a interesting plot point since Captain La Forge would out rank Janeway and be within her right to take command of the situation.
 
I wish they had used the Hera in Voyager instead of the Equinox. The fact that the Hera could out gun Voyager would make a interesting plot point since Captain La Forge would out rank Janeway and be within her right to take command of the situation.

I don't think Geordis mom would be anything like Ransom. But yes she would outrank Janeway and have the more powerful albeit obsolete ship.
 
I don't think Geordis mom would be anything like Ransom. But yes she would outrank Janeway and have the more powerful albeit obsolete ship.

I don't know about that. We would like to think she wouldn't be like Ransom because we know Geordi but desperation can do a lot to people and with the Hera being a bigger ship it would have to mean a lot more people had died which could make her be more extreme out of pure desperation.
 
I doubt the Hera would do poorly in the Delta Quadrant Voyager pretty much stayed intact (of course that was crappy writing and forgetting their premise).
 
I don't think Geordis mom would be anything like Ransom. But yes she would outrank Janeway and have the more powerful albeit obsolete ship.
How is the Nebula-Class obsolete? By that same reasoning so is the Galaxy-Class (not to mention the Excelsior's and Miranda's that basically are the fleet).

In a reboot of Voyager I have on my computer, the Hera was pulled into the DQ but had to abandon their attempt to use the Array to get home when a Kazon Sect war erupted in the system. Not long into their journey they discovered an active Vaudwaar conduit and used it, but after several thousand light-years it destabilised and threw them out which caused a warp core breach. Evacuating to the saucer the crew managed to land on an L-Class planet, which became their home, using shuttles to travel to nearby systems for supplies and resources, whilst also starting to build up a small league of friendly worlds (the basis on a Mini-UFP). Voyager, after coming out of the un-reset Year of Hell, landed on a planet to make repairs and tend to wounded, also using shuttles to gather what they needed. On a trading station they learn from a merchant that they aren't the first Starfleet they have encountered and secure locations of other worlds that they've been known to visit. Getting the ship barely operational, they go out in search of the other crew and ultimately find the Hera Colony. There they manage to get help repairing the ship, restock on shuttles and torpedoes, as well as take on a few crewmembers to help fill the ranks of those who were most, though Voyager isn't large enough to evacuate the whole crew. After the ship returns home at the beginning of Season 7 (not thanks to Borg Ex Machina) the crew manage to raise a small task force to return back for those they left behind at the colony.
 
How is the Nebula-Class obsolete? By that same reasoning so is the Galaxy-Class (not to mention the Excelsior's and Miranda's that basically are the fleet).

In a reboot of Voyager I have on my computer, the Hera was pulled into the DQ but had to abandon their attempt to use the Array to get home when a Kazon Sect war erupted in the system. Not long into their journey they discovered an active Vaudwaar conduit and used it, but after several thousand light-years it destabilised and threw them out which caused a warp core breach. Evacuating to the saucer the crew managed to land on an L-Class planet, which became their home, using shuttles to travel to nearby systems for supplies and resources, whilst also starting to build up a small league of friendly worlds (the basis on a Mini-UFP). Voyager, after coming out of the un-reset Year of Hell, landed on a planet to make repairs and tend to wounded, also using shuttles to gather what they needed. On a trading station they learn from a merchant that they aren't the first Starfleet they have encountered and secure locations of other worlds that they've been known to visit. Getting the ship barely operational, they go out in search of the other crew and ultimately find the Hera Colony. There they manage to get help repairing the ship, restock on shuttles and torpedoes, as well as take on a few crewmembers to help fill the ranks of those who were most, though Voyager isn't large enough to evacuate the whole crew. After the ship returns home at the beginning of Season 7 (not thanks to Borg Ex Machina) the crew manage to raise a small task force to return back for those they left behind at the colony.

Voyager was not in service when the Hera was lost. Meaning Voyager is the more advanced ship she may not be as powerful.
 
Might want to say "not as cutting edge" instead of obsolete. The Nebula-Class was a far more versatile multi mission type of vessel with considerable more tactical prowess than the Intrepid-Class, just look at how often she is deployed during the Dominion War, whilst the only time we see an Intrepid is as a transport. Had we followed the Hera in the DQ then their replacement of shuttles and torpedoes would make far more sense as she would have the resources and facilities onboard to realistically do that, rather than just have them magically appear.
 
That the show was on the Hera rather than Voyager?
Yes. If they were going to do a lost in space show anyway, then resolving that story would've been a really good tie in. I never liked the Maqui angle, nor many of Voyager's characters, & I'd have preferred Madge Sinclair as the featured starship captain over Kate Mulgrew incalculably.

I've never even watched the whole show, all the way through, because of her & her character. Occasionally I'll watch an episode after folks discuss it, like Equinox in here. Just watched it. Not a terrible episode, a little stale given the premise, but what kills it? as usual, Janeway sucks, & Mulgrew is kind of annoying in her portrayal, imho.

Unfortunately, the notion of Madge Sinclair being a featured captain at the time Voyager was released is unrealistic, as she passed away from Leukemia that very year. Interestingly enough. I have a theory of what happened to Captain Silva La Forge... & it has something to do with this...
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.... the ill fate of the USS Saratoga, & her unnamed captain, in Star Trek: The Voyage Home... Perhaps the same person, 84 years earlier :alienblush:
 
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