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Heaven Sent / Hell Bent official details. (Spoilers!)

Is that David Tennant as the ghost Time Lord?

No, I don't think so.

Well, every other element of that guy's Spoilers for the episode has tured out to be 100% correct, including the very existance of whatever that thing is, so even if that one wasn't him I won't be surprised if he and McGann turn up.

It could be a timelord device to inflict guilt

"Stare into all your previous faces and face the consequences"
 
Well, every other element of that guy's Spoilers for the episode has tured out to be 100% correct, including the very existance of whatever that thing is, so even if that one wasn't him I won't be surprised if he and McGann turn up.

I'm puzzled at the motive for all the leaks the past week. Someone in the production team disgruntled? Someone trying to embarrass Moffat and/or the Beeb? Could it be the production team itself strategically leaking to try to get people who have dropped out interested enough to come back for the finale?
 
It could be a timelord device to inflict guilt

"Stare into all your previous faces and face the consequences"

As I recall he talked about tombs under Gallifrey being guarded by the shades of Time Lords past incarnations and that Tennant and McGann appear among them.

And given that he was able to leak this photo back in August...
 
Are we going to have a Heaven Sent Grading/Discussion Thread anytime soon?

Normally it would be here by now.
 
Interesting that we once again seem to be returning to that barn.

We'll also get DOTD from 12's POV at some point in the episode.

It's basically Moffat's Grand Finale as Showrunner, except, oops, he's back for one more series.
 
I imagine this will be one of those Moffat finales that is full of so much stuff that I won't be able to follow the story and will initially think is terrible.

But then I will rewatch it in the context of Moffat's entire run and think it's amazing.

Pretty much how I have felt about most of his big finales, all the way back to "The Pandorica Opens/Big Bang." He packs so much information into the episodes that does make sense, but it all happens so fast that it's hard to absorb what's actually going on.
 
Pretty much how I have felt about most of his big finales, all the way back to "The Pandorica Opens/Big Bang." He packs so much information into the episodes that does make sense, but it all happens so fast that it's hard to absorb what's actually going on.

"The Time of the Doctor" was chock full of that. Lot of throw aways lines

"I nicked it from the master etc etc"

"Taken from the cadaver of tasha lem"


That was the same with RTD. There's no time to process all the things going on. You just have to keep up


Russell T. Davies from Doctor Who: The Writer’s Tale.


I can see more traditional ways of telling those stories, but I’m not interested. I think the stuff that you gain from writing in this way – the shock, the whirlwind, the freedom, the exhilaration – is worth the world. I’ve got this sort of tumbling, freewheeling style that somersaults along, with everything happening now – not later, not before, but now, now, now. I’ve made a Doctor Who that exists in the present tense. And I think that’s exactly like the experience of watching Doctor Who. It’s happening now, right in front of your eyes! If you don’t like it, if you don’t join in with it, then… blimey, these episodes must be nonsensical.
 
Interesting that we once again seem to be returning to that barn.

More to the point, it looks like now we have definitive proof positive the barn is indeed on Gallifrey. Granted, that was pretty obvious to most since Listen anyway, even though a number of people still argued that it "obviously wasn't."
 
Pretty much how I have felt about most of his big finales, all the way back to "The Pandorica Opens/Big Bang." He packs so much information into the episodes that does make sense, but it all happens so fast that it's hard to absorb what's actually going on.

"The Time of the Doctor" was chock full of that. Lot of throw aways lines

"I nicked it from the master etc etc"

"Taken from the cadaver of tasha lem"


That was the same with RTD. There's no time to process all the things going on. You just have to keep up


Russell T. Davies from Doctor Who: The Writer’s Tale.


I can see more traditional ways of telling those stories, but I’m not interested. I think the stuff that you gain from writing in this way – the shock, the whirlwind, the freedom, the exhilaration – is worth the world. I’ve got this sort of tumbling, freewheeling style that somersaults along, with everything happening now – not later, not before, but now, now, now. I’ve made a Doctor Who that exists in the present tense. And I think that’s exactly like the experience of watching Doctor Who. It’s happening now, right in front of your eyes! If you don’t like it, if you don’t join in with it, then… blimey, these episodes must be nonsensical.

The thing is, I usually end up falling in love with these episodes once I watch them a second time and can actually pick up on all the little things I missed.
 
It could be a timelord device to inflict guilt

"Stare into all your previous faces and face the consequences"

As I recall he talked about tombs under Gallifrey being guarded by the shades of Time Lords past incarnations and that Tennant and McGann appear among them.

And given that he was able to leak this photo back in August...

Can someone link (or send me link if not fully public) to this spoiler-dump that seems to come all true?
 
There's a few early reviews out now (surprised the Beeb didn't want to keep this one secret) and there's a couple of common threads running through them; that it's not the episode the trailers are leading us to expect, that there's a controversial appearance halfway through (Zombie Tennant?) and hints that Clara will end up getting the patented Moffat Get Out Of Death Free card after all.
 
Somewhat annoyingly, I'm off appearing in (and directing) a play at the SCA's Yule Ball - and ding the fireside ghost stories - this weekend, and so won't bloody see it until at least Sunday night...
 
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