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HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams

Hmmmmm, Season 3 was an improvement on Season 2, but still doesn't top Season 1 - it shifted away from Jurassic Park crossed with Wild West, and became much more a spy/crime thriller (with 1970s style futurism).

The big bad of S3, Serac, was masterfully played by Vincent Cassel and what the hit n' miss Craig Bond era script writers are striving for with their villains: Serac wasn't taking over the world, he already did take over the world, with a pre-cognitive super computer network controlling billions of lives, and two megacorps under his thumb.

A enjoyable season that I easily binged watched, with only 8 episodes, but it gets almost as silly as S2 seeing Dolores and Mauve effortlessly wade through waves of corporate security troops and thugs.

I give this season an 8/10 (with S1 a 9/10 and S2 a 7/10).
 
I wonder with Foundation coming out how many people will accuse it of ripping off S3 of Westworld with Psychohistory.
 
I wonder with Foundation coming out how many people will accuse it of ripping off S3 of Westworld with Psychohistory.

I think you can give the viewers the benefit of the doubt not to confuse the two concepts - while similar i think there are enough differences to keep them separate, especially because Psychohistory is benevolent in nature while the WW AI wasn't.
 
I don't know - weren't they both utilitarian control systems - the well-being of the many outweighs the well-being of the few? However, any tenuous similarity surely ends there.
 
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FYI: Jeffrey Wright and Shannon Woodward are both in The Last of Us Part II. Sadly they don't have any scenes together, and Wright's role is fairly small. I'm assuming the size of Wright's role is probably due to WW.
EDIT: And I also just found out that Halley Gross, who was the co-writer and narrative lead for TLOUPII, was a writer on Westworld.
 
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My S3 review follows... (S1/2+movie thoughts here.)

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My take on Westworld S3 closely tracks that of The AV Club's Zack Handlen: it starts strong, but trips, falls, and stumbles across the finish line. There are two main problems: one, the threat of Rehoboam's "world without choice" is never quite clear, and is too silly to really take seriously. (What, are there no poor people outside its reach? Where are all the poor people, anyway? Do nations not compete against each other anymore, or can it account for that, too? Has climate change been solved?)

Two, the reveal that Caleb is practically a host himself, thanks to brainwashing, and was specifically chosen by his secret prior acquaintance Dolores to be a leader for humanity, completely robs him of the unknown-quantity factor that first made him interesting. (And what if he'd been shot in the head during one of their many battles? What would all Dolores' grand plans have amounted to then?) Annoyingly, Rehoboam ends up falling for the oldest trick in the book, the same invasive virus ploy from Independence Day and Star Trek: Voyager's "Endgame." (When you find yourself paying homage to blooming Voyager...) Finally, about those awesome mechs teased throughout the season: only one of them shows up in the finale to... stand still and lob some tear gas? Talk about a Chekov's fail.

The season certainly looks amazing throughout - or almost throughout, with the final two episodes taking place in generic abandoned warehouses, streets, and dark offices. In a year that saw lots of ethnicity-based international protests, the very vaguely anti-establishment demonstrators (shades of the other Nolan brother's TDKR) not only fail to feel contemporary, there's an ugly cynical strain in the idea they can be reliably and easily controlled with electronic cash deposits. The actors are giving it their all, and I'm still interested in seeing what Bernard and Stubbs do next, but, as awesome as Thandie Newton is, as well as Evan Rachel Wood, I'm about done with her/their vaguely motivated, poorly defined revolutionary spirit. And that goes doubly for Caleb.

Worth reading: a piece on several 2020 sci-fi shows by Entertainment Weekly's Darren Franich. A choice excerpt:

I get it: We are all scared of phones, and bots, and the Algorithm. Yet by demonizing technology, these projects oddly exonerate the people behind that technology. CEOs with tragic origin stories in Westworld or Devs are puppets for machines they can't control. Higher-tech powers in Brave New World and "You May Also Like" control whole civilizations comprised of unaware humans.

I'm reminded of how people in Silicon Valley have lately become fixated on dark prophecies about the singularity, the moment when A.I. will evolve beyond humanity. Those concerns always sound handwashy to me, a way for unbelievably powerful rich people to worry about something cool when they could be worrying about income inequality, social-media-enabled totalitarianism, or all the other problems their industry's success directly propagates. Consider A.I. skeptic Elon Musk, who recently complained loudly about coronavirus stay-at-home orders. His Fremont, Calif., Tesla plant reopened — and employees started testing positive for COVID-19. Wouldn't evil A.I. be smart enough to listen to Dr. Fauci?​

The most hopeful thing I can say for the greenlit fourth season is that it almost certainly can't repeat the same "trapped in a preordained cycle" motif of these first three seasons - but, then, it didn't initially seem as though either the second or third seasons would have done so, and they did. There was certainly enough incredible technical filmmaking and top-notch acting to make the show up 'til now worthwhile, but it's time for a new vision, as this season's halved ratings (even with a global pandemic keeping everyone at home) attest.

S1: B+
S2: B
S3: B-

Series so far: B
 
I’ve now finally seen season 3 sober enough to remember it.

My second viewing has increased my opinion of it. The question of order vs chaos, whether free will and self determination are worth the risk we will use it to destroy ourselves is especially cogent a year and a half later.

Also the question of what Bernard saw in the very long time he was gathering dust.
 
Man, season 3 killed my interest in this show so much. And I LOVED the first season. I hardly even remember what happened in season 3 beyond the broad strokes.
 
I don't remember if we already knew Aaron Paul was returning, but that's good to know either way. I thought he was a terrific addition last season.
 
I feel like they don't know what to do with Maeve. She spends 2 seasons searching for her daughter even though she knows she only feels something about her because of programming.
 
I feel like they don't know what to do with Maeve. She spends 2 seasons searching for her daughter even though she knows she only feels something about her because of programming.

You not liking the storyline that the writers have given the character doesn't mean that they don't know what to do with her.
 
I feel like they don't know what to do with Maeve. She spends 2 seasons searching for her daughter even though she knows she only feels something about her because of programming.

She knows that everything she feels and thinks is because of her programming.

Except if it's not.

Okay, fine, everything about the show is hands down brilliant without question or hesitation.

No, but you'd have to try a lot harder to come up with a crit that bears close examination.
 
I feel like they don't know what to do with Maeve. She spends 2 seasons searching for her daughter even though she knows she only feels something about her because of programming.

Remember when Ford wrote her the narrative to escape the park, concern for her daughter is what threw her off her narrative.

I would agree that Maeve’s natural storyline concluded in season 2 and they had trouble figuring out what to do with her in season 3. Her function was more to give Dolores someone to hand the baton to.
 
Season 4 production is underway (again) (warning link contains possible spoilers)

I thought season 3, with the way they had it structured was supposed to be the end. It felt definite.

As for Maeve, I felt she was one of the more interesting characters. Though I feel the basic concept of hosts being able to be reset robbed the narrative some of its power. I wish they would have done more with her via the 3rd season.
 
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