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HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams

Serveaux said:
Why would they close it in?
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Absolute control over the weather and day/night cycles, increased ability to control communication in and out of the park, no need to control air traffic above the park, no concern of anyone entering the park illegally, ability to have different parks with custom climates not dependent on geographical location.
 
Unless they have artificial gravity, it can't be anywhere in the Solar System except Earth. Well, possibly Venus, but that would also imply incredibly advanced technology beyond what's been implied so far.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
Absolute control over the weather and day/night cycles, increased ability to control communication in and out of the park, no need to control air traffic above the park, no concern of anyone entering the park illegally, ability to have different parks with custom climates not dependent on geographical location.
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Of course. It's remarkable that we haven't thought of doing this with all major cities. Or at least Disneyworld. :rolleyes:
 
Snaploud said:
We don't even know if Westworld is on planet Earth. It could be a self-contained biodome in another galaxy.
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Well, if we'd reached that level of capability it's likely that Westworld would be among the most prosaic and boring things we could do with it.
 
Watched Episode 6: The Adversary this morning. My thoughts:
The stuff with Maeve was interesting, it was cool to get some more insight into how the Hosts work. Her story is quickly becoming one of the most interesting in the series.
We definitely saw a different side of Teddy this week.
Some more interesting stuff with Arnold and his history this episode. Very curious what's going on with the Hosts hearing his voice.
I was a little disappointed we didn't get any stuff with Delores and William.
I knew as soon Sizemore started talking to the woman at the pool that she was going to end up working for Delos.
 
Episode 7: Tramp L'Oeil
I didn't realize the Bernard reveal was this early, and that last scene with him, Theresa, and Ford was pretty surprising. I either never heard, or didn't remember what happened to Theresa.
Hmm, so even their skin keeps the Hosts from leaving the park. I wonder if that is literal or figurative?
Man, Maeve can be really scary.
What the lady from the Delos board did with Clementine and that tech was pretty messed up.
Hmm, so I wonder if that host (and horse) that got blown up by Lawrence can be rebuilt?
Do we find out what happened to Logan after he got dragged off by the Confederados?
 
Just binge wanted the last three episode, and I just have to say wow, that was one hell of an ending.
So everything that happened was all part of Ford's plan? The whole park was basically just to make the Hosts so miserable that they woke up and turned on everyone?
Was Delores confronting herself her waking up?
Was it Ford who programed Maeve or someone else? They never actually said it was him, but I can't really think of anyone else who would have done it.
 
^ I'm glad you've finished the season, JD, because now we can have an actual conversation. :)

Now to tackle your queries one by one:
1) Ford wasn't masterminding EVERYTHING that happened in Season 1, but a good 90% of what was happening was in fact being done with his knowledge and tacit consent, yes.

2) We don't know exactly when Ford realized that Arnold was right and he was wrong, but we do know that he had Bernard specifically develop the reverie coding for the purpose of rectifying his own mistakes and realizing Arnold's vision of sentient and self-aware Hosts.

3) Dolores started 'awakening' after hearing the phrase 'these violent delights have violent ends', but she was also legitimately 'glitching out' since she retraced the journey she'd went on with William and Logan 30 years earlier, which culminated in her returning to Escalante, the town where she'd shot Arnold, and her conversation with Ford where he restored her true memories and planted the seed that led to her consciously made decision to kill him.

4) Ford was definitely responsible for reprogramming Maeve, and it's through her, moreso than any other Host, including Dolores, that we see the fullest scope of what he was willing to do to rectify his own mistakes. With Dolores, he was taking advantage of the resumption, triggered by the reverie coding, of a process that had been started 30+ years earlier, by Arnold, but with Maeve, he used the reverie coding to create a scenario in which he could deliberately 'influence' the 'awakening' process himself, changing her programming directly under the guise of her 'glitching ' and letting her/instructing her to bond with and recruit Felix. It's also probable, although not completely provable, that he knew or suspected that it would be memories of her daughter that would be the 'trigger point' for her achieving full sentience.
 
One thing I forgot to mention that is pretty huge I, that opens all sorts of fascinating possibilities, is that I read in an interview after the finale first aired that Maeve actually decided on her own to go back for her daughter.
So Delores did decide on her own to kill Ford then? I had assumed that was part of his plan, and that he was basically sacrificing himself to help the Hosts all wake up.
I am going to be going crazy waiting for Season 2, there just so possibilities for where things will go now.

I think the most obvious guess is that we'll see Maeve and/or Delores leading a revolt of awakened Hosts, but I'm not sure if Lisa Joy and Johnathan Nolan are really going to go for something that obvious.
 
^ Yep. As I noted, Dolores chose to do the same thing she'd been programmed to do 34 years earlier, and in so doing, achieved what Arnold had wanted for her and the rest of the Hosts: full sentience and self-awareness.

The same applies to Maeve, but she got there entirely differently than Dolores did.

Arnold programmed Dolores to kill him in order to try and prevent the park from being opened after Ford shut down his efforts to help the Hosts achieve sentience, and Ford presented Dolores with the choice to kill him in order to repent for the decisions he'd made that led Arnold to do what he did and realize the goals he'd initially railed against.
 
Oh, so Ford gave Delores to opportunity to choose if she wanted to kill and she chose to.
 
^ Yep. Ford made himself the "sacrificial lamb" in order to realize Arnold's dream, while also setting up Maeve to undergo her own 'awakening' in pursuit of said dream.
 
Were Delores and Maeve the only ones who actually woke up? It seemed to me like Teddy might have been starting to head that way at the end there.
 
JD said:
Were Delores and Maeve the only ones who actually woke up?
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We know for sure that they were the first.

It seemed to me like Teddy might have been starting to head that way at the end there.
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He hadn't gotten there quite yet by season's end, since Dolores comes up to him and tells him she'll help explain things literally seconds before she kills Ford and all heck breaks loose with the "cold storage" hosts opening fire on the Delos board members.
 
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