HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams
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Happy it's being renewed. Bummed about the wait, but then good things are worth waiting for.... 
Damn, the long wait sucks. But then we had to wait a long time for the first season, too.
So, any thoughts on if Westworld is on the moon, an asteroid, or high earth orbit?
I noticed that the "train" (space elevator?) William and Logan arrive in seems to pass through rock, making me change my mind from a station in high earth orbit to the moon / asteroid in a lagrange point.
I noticed that the "train" (space elevator?) William and Logan arrive in seems to pass through rock, making me change my mind from a station in high earth orbit to the moon / asteroid in a lagrange point.
Nope.
Jimmi Simpson (William) said that things are wrapped up without leaving anything "hanging".
There'll likely be setup for the second season, but not a cliffhanger.
I have no idea where you're coming up with this, other than because you (probably) only saw a starry night.
That said, one of my first guesses about the show was that it was off-earth or underground. But it's kind of hard to rationalize how well they can simulate the atmosphere and wide-open skies like they have. That's a level of technology magnitudes greater than what we've seen on the show.
It is suspicious, however, that we never see any aircraft. Unless it does happen and 1.) the hosts are set up to ignore it like Bernard and the door and 2.) the guests just don't bother to mention it. But it's still suspicious either way.
^ Maybe there's just a no-fly zone?
I mean, wouldn't it ruin the illusion if a plane flew overhead?
I mean, wouldn't it ruin the illusion if a plane flew overhead?
If it's not on Earth, it would have to be in a space habitat, otherwise the difference in gravity would be noticeable. And a space habitat large enough to simulate the Wild West would have to be incredibly huge. Of course, I've already wondered at exactly how much acreage they actually own.
Well, Delores and William appeared to be on a moving train at least overnight which could suggest either a truly massive environment, some form of holodeck/projection tech (unlikely given Ford's landscaping project), or Windows akin to TV screens giving the appearance of large-distance movement. I prefer the former, and given with the rather impressive depths the working compound appears to sink to, I like the idea that the corporation bought a 100sq mile piece of land from a broke government and now does what they wish with it.
They wear heavy boots!
Must be a habitat in orbit somewhere in the solar system. I guess you can see the orion constellation only here.
The episode where Theresa has her meeting with the board in the command centre. It's quick but you see the dome windows she's sitting by looks down into a landscape from orbit, and we know the command centre isn't orbiting the "game" area because they take small, open elevators "up" to and from it for maintenance.
Other hints: The "train" to Westworld in episode 2 is in total darkness then passes through a barren rock area into the arrival station, which opens into Westworld.
Episode 1, Abernathy describes Westworld as a prison Ford can't escape.
Maeve is told by the techs it's physically impossible to escape.
The entire area is a self enclosed ecosystem where even the animals are animatronic - you'd pretty much have to be in space to pull that off.
Ford continually states he built everything and is a God there - could be referring to the entire station / asteroid, not just a park.
The limit of 28 days for guests to visit - could be due to radiation, which explains why most of the employees wear protective garments in the "game" area.
Other than the window looking down from orbit it's all pretty iffy but my money is on it being a twist yet to come.
This stuff all comes from the Westworld viral marketing site, so the show can contradict it at any time (and the maps themselves already have been changed several times), but it probably gives a reasonably accurate view of at least the broad strokes of what they intended.
Here's an earlier map from the Delos site which is brightened and labeled, and mentions the survey being commissioned by the United States government, which wouldn't be curious in and of itself, except the reference to the US government is dropped in subsequent editions of the map, which could mean the showrunners changed their minds about the US government being involved, still being around as an entity, the park being in US territory, or just means the viral campaign simply got it wrong.
Here's the most recent map, where now the survey is simply commissioned by the "Zoning Department." Notice that what is presumably Ford's new canyon excavation is marked in red at the bottom left and that beyond that the park is connected to a sea.
Also notice that in the zoomed-in labeled version that the location of both the town of Sweetwater and the Abernathy Ranch have moved to the East from their places in the top map.
Here's the cutaway map of the subterranean levels of the Delos Mesa Corporate Hub.
Here's the contract for Guests at the park (including some ways that people have died, like tumbleweeds and stampedes, which Delos is not liable for, and the fact that Delos pretty much owns every excretion from your body and the rights to use your DNA. Hmmm.)
Here's the $687,000 single person "Silver Package" costs breakdown.
And here's the system they use to transport dead Hosts to the livestock maintenance facility under normal circumstances (not when they have to send in the people with the biohazard suits). The Hosts are buried in graves by undertaker Hosts, and the graves have elevators and conveyors which transport the dead to the Mesa Hub for repairs.
So, if you go by all that, it would appear that Westworld is just a sizeable chunk of real estate purchased by the Delos corporation in a desert region of what may or may not be the western United States (but given that most of the Guests have been American, that makes some sense). But strangely, if the maps are to be believed (though this has not been confirmed on the show), it might also border the ocean or a large inland sea.
I have some theories to add to this later on.
Yeah, you're going to have to give a screen cap of that.
Or at least an episode number so we can review it ourselves.
Are you sure you didn't just see the reflection of the holomap thingy on her window? Her office immediately overlooks the main Westworld control map.
Yeah, I think I saw something in one of the Season 2 announcements about how what they're doing in Season 1 is all a setup for the main plot which doesn't actually kick off until Season 2. So I'm thinking there will be some kind of massive game changer in the finale that will totally change the whole premise of the show, like the hosts all becoming fully aware and/or being released out into the wider world. From everything I've read it sounds like it'll probably be at the center of the maze, and will be related to Arnold's interest in AI.
That really strengthens my (largely unfounded) belief that they're showing how the series' lead villain (Maeve) and hero (Dolores) were "born," at least as far as the hosts are concerned.
I'm pretty sure I've seen a couple of bootless people.They wear heavy boots!
