HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams

Well then let me rectify...oh wait, I don't care.

 

I'd started watching some popular nonsense on HBO - "The White Lotus" - and I've dropped it. I'm dropping my subscription as well.

 

Okay, so, now that Westworld the series is done, it's time to ask: what, in your opinion, is the particular moment the show Jumped the Shark, or took a clear turn for the worse?

To me, that moment was when William killed his daughter in an idiotic fit of paranoia. It was ugly and nihilistic, and while it wouldn't be accurate to say the show ignored that development, it didn't pay it off sufficiently to justify it, either.

 

What don’t you like about White Lotus? I thought first season was great at least. Dark satire on class and privilege, reminds me of a modern day Rules of the Game.

 

I think this is going to be different for everyone, but for me in particular, it wasn't any particular plot point, but rather what's reflected in the direction of the show since the end of season 1. Season 1 was great, and I think everyone agrees that the show was off to a great start. Personally, I feel the production team read the room wrong in terms of why it was popular, and increased the wrong things in season 2. By the end of the season, other seasons felt unnecessary. But YMMV.

 

I think I posted this comment somewhere on this forum a while back, but season 2 of Westworld reminds me of season 2 of Mr. Robot where they took the one thing from season 1 that got the most buzz and doubled down on it in season 2 to their own detriment.

 

Haven't seen that show, but the comparison seems apt. It's like sometimes they see success, but not the reasons for their success, which seems to me is what a focus group should be doing.

I mean, this is just me, but I didn't need more layered complexity out of the storytelling, as the first season was perfect the way it was, but somehow it was decided the show needed to be more complex than it was. And I think it backfired. I thought they had backed themselves into a corner at the end of season 2. Season 3 arrived and it was quite a departure. Then the way that one ended sure seemed like it could be a series finale to me and I wasn't expecting a 4th season.

 

If season one has been a limited series the show would have went down as one of the best things HBO ever made.

As is, it became just some program that showed up every couple years.

 

It's certainly a change from the reaction most genre series that get cancelled get, to see people react to the news with a shrug and little else.

 

I'm actually disappointed, as I was looking forward to whatever Delores was cooking up.

 

Most genre series depend upon the superficial but addictive appeal of junk food. If Mcdonald's dropped the Big Mac from their menu there'd be blood in the streets.

 

Westworld has been completely pulled from HBO Max
https://deadline.com/2022/12/westworld-the-nevers-pulled-hbo-max-canceled-1235197233/

 

I don't get why they need to remove it. They own it don't they? Its not like they have to pay for it.

 

This is not really newsworthy or noteworthy.

 

This suggests that it is probably both newsworthy and noteworthy.

 

How on Earth is it not?

 

You're not the forum police.
It's connected to the show, it can be posted.

 

I wasn't saying you were in the wrong to post it; I was simply expressing an opinion about it as a thing that's been revealed and dismissing the need for it to have been revealed at all.

 

I'd say it's noteworthy since it's a popular show being suddenly pulled from the streaming service owned by the studio that produces it.
And if nothing else, it's sure noteworthy to me since I've been planning on watching the last two seasons on there for a while now.

 

Things get pulled from Streaming services all the time for any number of reasons.

It should also be noted that, at least for me, both this series and The Nevers remained on the service as of about an hour ago.