HBO's "Westworld", starring Anthony Hopkins/produced by J.J. Abrams
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Haven't seen that show, but the comparison seems apt. It's like sometimes they see success, but not the reasons for their success, which seems to me is what a focus group should be doing.
I mean, this is just me, but I didn't need more layered complexity out of the storytelling, as the first season was perfect the way it was, but somehow it was decided the show needed to be more complex than it was. And I think it backfired. I thought they had backed themselves into a corner at the end of season 2. Season 3 arrived and it was quite a departure. Then the way that one ended sure seemed like it could be a series finale to me and I wasn't expecting a 4th season.
I mean, this is just me, but I didn't need more layered complexity out of the storytelling, as the first season was perfect the way it was, but somehow it was decided the show needed to be more complex than it was. And I think it backfired. I thought they had backed themselves into a corner at the end of season 2. Season 3 arrived and it was quite a departure. Then the way that one ended sure seemed like it could be a series finale to me and I wasn't expecting a 4th season.
It's certainly a change from the reaction most genre series that get cancelled get, to see people react to the news with a shrug and little else.
I'm actually disappointed, as I was looking forward to whatever Delores was cooking up.
Most genre series depend upon the superficial but addictive appeal of junk food. If Mcdonald's dropped the Big Mac from their menu there'd be blood in the streets.
Westworld has been completely pulled from HBO Max
https://deadline.com/2022/12/westworld-the-nevers-pulled-hbo-max-canceled-1235197233/
https://deadline.com/2022/12/westworld-the-nevers-pulled-hbo-max-canceled-1235197233/
This is not really newsworthy or noteworthy.
This suggests that it is probably both newsworthy and noteworthy.
How on Earth is it not?
You're not the forum police.
It's connected to the show, it can be posted.
I wasn't saying you were in the wrong to post it; I was simply expressing an opinion about it as a thing that's been revealed and dismissing the need for it to have been revealed at all.
I'd say it's noteworthy since it's a popular show being suddenly pulled from the streaming service owned by the studio that produces it.
And if nothing else, it's sure noteworthy to me since I've been planning on watching the last two seasons on there for a while now.
And if nothing else, it's sure noteworthy to me since I've been planning on watching the last two seasons on there for a while now.
Things get pulled from Streaming services all the time for any number of reasons.
It should also be noted that, at least for me, both this series and The Nevers remained on the service as of about an hour ago.
It should also be noted that, at least for me, both this series and The Nevers remained on the service as of about an hour ago.
They want to sell it somewhere else. Same as Nevers, Minx, and god knows how many others.
WBD isn't interested in either amount of content of the prestige of their content. They're interested in money. Between the hbo max viewership metrics, market research, and financial analysis they've determined they can make more money leasing these shows to other services than keeping them on Max, so that's what they are going to do.
We can be grateful that didn't decide they were worth more as tax write offs.
WB has been permanently vaulting expensive products for tax savings so yes it absolutely is newsworthy when they pull stuff off because it may never be available again. The only reason we know that's not the case here is because of the news saying the shows aren't getting vaulted.
So, in addition to the monthly subscription they want people to pay for the blu-rays. I understand shows moving from streaming services if they are not owned directly by the company but when it comes to a networks own series I don't get it. I remember when Netflix first started there was the hope that we would now be able to watch practically anything we wanted for a subscription fee. One thing I now miss is the back catalogue of obscure movies that used to be on Netflix. I mean why remove them--they can't be a huge expense.
It's not the expense it's the lost profit. If Amazon is willing to pay $105/month for the exclusive rights to show Westworld on prime and WB's analytics and market research show no longer having Westworld on Max will only cost them $100/month in lost subscriptions WB is making a $5 profit by making taking Westworld down and selling it to Amazon. So that's what they are doing. They don't care about how many shows are on HBO Max or how prestigious the quality is - they want money, even nickel and dimes, even if it comes at the reputation of the service.
If licenses expire or they don't want to renegotiate, i.e. pay agents and lawyers, lots of things could fall by the wayside.
