Q- In recent years, Super Sentai seems to be conciously breaking away from the pattern of a "standard Sentai show," but the first episode of Gozyuger was particularly unconventional. I was also surprised that only GozyuWolf/Tohno Hoeru transformed, out of the core team members. Previously, there has only been one season where this has happened, "Choriki Sentai Ohranger" (1995)'s first episode, but all 5 Ohranger assemble in the second episode. Gozyuger's uniqueness is highlighted by the fact that the main members do not appear all together until episode five.
A- Technically speaking, the Gozyuger don't officially assemble and do their "roll call" until episode 7, right? (laughs)
(Image; The 5 Gozyuger assembled) - In Episode 5, "Torimodose Soul! Sumi ni okenai osekkai", Sumino engages (transforms) into GozyuUnicorn for the first time, and the 5 Gozyuger are finally assembled.
Q- From the world view displayed in episode 1, we are introduced to what is the equivalent of Super Sentai's giant robo with the god, "TegaSword." TegaSword also functions as the Gozyuger's transformation item and weapon, and we also learn that those who bear SentaiRings must fight and steal other rings to make their "wishes" come true. When I first heard the setting, I thought it would be something like a brutal "life-stealing" story in the vein of "Kamen Rider Ryuuki" (2002), but when the show started, it was a bit more laid back with a unique atmosphere; Hoeru, Rikuo, Ryugi and the others who are supposed be fighting over the rings are just hanging out at the cafe, "Tega Sword no Sato".
A- Although they say they don't want to get along with each other, they actually get along quite well, don't they? There's been a theory put forward that they're all actually tsundere. (laughs). It's true that they're all involved with fighting their opponents and collecting the rings, but they're not really fighting for their lives or anything like that. In that sense, it's more "sport-like", and as a Super Sentai series, I was conscious of not giving it a sense of tragedy.
(Image- Gozyuger at TegaSword no Sato) - The cafe, "TegaSword no Sato", where Ryugi acts as manager, is the natural hangout spot for the Gozyuger, as we first meet Hoeru with him living on its second floor. Image is from Episode 5, "Torimodose Soul! Sumi ni okenai osekkai".
Q- I was surprised when the "cheering squad" suddenly appeared and cheered for both sides before Hoeru and Fire Candle fought each other. It feels like the show has inherited some genes from "DonBrothers."
A- It's definitely true that in "DonBrothers", the "celestial maidens" appear without any explanation when Don Momotaro first shows up. Because of that, it was easy for the staff to explain that the "cheering squad just appears here." (laughs) If celestial maidens can appear, then so can a cheering squad. That argument had a very mysterious persuasive power.
Q- This is the first TV series where you've served as Chief Producer- did you have any ideas about what kind of work you'd like to do if you were ever given this kind of opportunity?
A- Not at all. Firstly, with "character works" like Super Sentai, things are often decided upon by various "external frameworks" such as product planning, so you can't really put a show together by thinking you want to create a certain work with certain content, independent of that. Since fundamentally, it's a business, the framework gets created first and the producer's job is then to think about what can be done within that framework.
Q- Since becoming a chief producer, what has changed from your time as an assistant producer?
A- I now spend a lot of time focused on the scripts for each episode. Because of that, I have less free time to play around with aspects outside of the main story (laughs). But as for the basics, the main things I'm responsible for haven't really changed much since working on "Kamen Rider Gotchard." "Gotchard is over, so on to Gozyuger, and I'll do my best with it!" The feeling is still the same.
Q- As chief, do you sometimes have to make the final call on various "decisions" when creating a work?
A- Even during Gotchard, I was able to do what I wanted thanks to Minato (Chief Producer of Gotchard), so the vibes have not really changed much. I was a bit cheeky and spoke up all the time there in a lot of instances, but Minato accepted that and respected it. I'm still incredibly grateful to him.
Q- Once more, please tell us about the difficulties and rewards of the job of producer.
A- A producer is not the director, nor are they the screenwriter; they're not a job that can "do something", but rather a role that requires telling everyone "I want you to do this something." Due to that, if you're too selfish, people working under you might feel uncomfortable and think "Then you do it!!". In that sense, I think a producer's job is difficult.
(Image- Producer Matsuura Daigo)
A (cont'd)- There's nothing you can do by yourself, so I think that the role of a producer is to get help from many people and turn everything into a work. When I convey my thoughts to them, begging, crying, etc, saying "Pleeeease!", and they answer "Well, since you say so, I guess I'll do it", it makes me really happy.
Q- You're still in your 20's, but the people you work with, such as Director Tasaki Ryuta, Special Effects Director Butsuda Hiroshi and Action Director Fukuzawa Hirofumi, are all veterans from the Showa Era. Do you feel the generation gap when you work with them?
A- I do, but don't really mind it at all. I think the older generation is probably kinder to younger people like me now versus in the past, so I guess that's where the sense of times helps (laughs). As far as age difference goes, I'm kind of like their son, or maybe their grandson, but personally I like special effects and anime works from Showa, and we get excited talking about them together. I am also partial to alcohol, so maybe I'm on the same wavelength as these people from the Showa era. As far as asking for work goes, it's always easier to rely on older people. Maybe I'm good at being spoiled (laughs).
Q- What was the intention behind the robot battles featuring the cast piloting the robo with their faces showing? The impact of TegaSword, which transforms from a giant "hand" to a humanoid form is amazing; what did you discuss with Special Effects Director Butsuda regarding that?
A- This time, we focused on the giant robots, so I watched "Brave Raideen" (1975/Tohokushinsha) to re-study past works with robots. I noticed that it contained elements of the "mysterious mecha" angle that we were aiming for with Gozyuger, and I shared that awareness with Butsuda. When I suggested doing something like Raideen, where a giant stone statue splits in half and moves with a rumble, he gave me a confused look, like "What are you talking about?" (laughs). I was thinking, "what can we do with a mecha in the shape of a hand!?", but then I realized that "Gante", the enemy fortress in Raideen, had done it first (laughs). I've always loved robots, so when I told Butsuda, "Let's do something with real robos", he told me, "It won't work if it's too close to a real robo." However, as I was talking with him, I started to have doubts and realized that recent "Sentai Robos" are only focused on the design and motif, and don't really look/operate like "robots." For example, are they designed with consideration for "where is the cockpit?" and "where is the pilot sitting and driving it"? Since it's not a real robo, there's no point in focusing too much on that, but I wanted to incorporate that kind of "realism" into this robo. So I suggested, "why don't we do something like Voltes V (1977) ?", where the cockpit is shown out of the "eye", and so that's done with TegaSword Red.
Q- "Super Sentai" is characterized by two main highlights: the action of the human-sized team of heroes and the special effects battles of the giant robos. Are you concious of both of those in Gozyuger as well?
A- In Gozyuger, we're trying to do both human-sized action and giant robos, so if you're not careful, there's a danger that you will get neither. There's a risk there that the show will stop working due to too many elements involved, or it just being overloaded. However, we're trying to figure out how to make the giant robot battles look like an "addition" to the human-sized action, and we're doing so by trial and error. In past works, there are shows like "Choudenshi Bioman" (1984) and "Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters (2012), that tried to avoid falling into the same-old pattern. I don't think we'll know whether Gozyuger was a success in this regard until it's finished.
(Image; DaiZyuJin and TegaSword Red) - TegaSword Red standing beside DaiZyuJin, who fought alongside Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger. From episode 7, "Kokoro tokimeke! Kesshu, Gozyuger!".
Q- Up until now, it was pretty much a given that the pilots of the Robo would be transformed into their suits, but with Gozyuger's TegaSword, the actors are in special costumes showing their faces to pilot it. What is the aim of this?
A- The movement and emotional expressions of the characters in the cockpit is the territory of the director, and I felt that once the robo battles started, there was a tendency to leave it up to Butsuda's special effects team, and people started to lose interest with that. I felt that this situation was not ideal, especially when we are trying to make a robot show in earnest. So we had the actors with their faces showing board the cockpit; first to raise the awareness of us on the "production side", that the robot scenes are not the propriety of the "special effects team" alone; i.e. the main team has to be involved there, and also to reaffirm the scenes as it's something that concerned us personally.
Q- In 1977's "Little Superman Ganbaron" (Soeisha), the masked hero Ganbaron changes into a helmet that shows his real face when he pilots the giant robot Daibaron, creating a direct effect that lets the pilot's emotions be seen. Super Sentai has attempted this before, in works such as "Chojin Sentai Jetman" (1991) and "Gekisou Sentai Carranger" (1996), but there has never been an example as thorough as Gozyuger is doing.
A- It's interesting to see a masked character pilot a robot and for their reactions to be acted out, as in the past. Since it's a choice between two options, and you have to decide on one, we went with the idea of having an unmasked pilot this time.
Q- Depending on how well Gozyuger is received, it's possible that the trend will change to it being more natural for an unmasked human to pilot the giant robos.
A- Thanks to everyone, the start has been well received in all directions. I heard that sales of TegaSword, and personal weapons like LeonBuster 50 are going well, as well as the SentaiRings being an unexpected hit. I guess it was a good thing that PLEX worked so hard on the individual designs. Anway, it seems to be exceeding expectations everywhere, with the numbers coming in, so I'm relieved for now.