Hasbro's Power Rangers era and General Tokusatsu discussion

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  1. Christopher

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    Let's see, I think that would be Fiveman, GoGoFive, Magiranger, and Ninninger as an extended family (2 siblings and 3 cousins). Some older, some newer.

    I guess there haven't been many examples of more than one family member being a Rider. The only cases of two siblings being main Riders at the same time were Zangetsu and Ryugen in Gaim and the Shindai siblings in Saber. There are a few cases of family members becoming Riders temporarily or at different times. Kiva's father was briefly Ixa before Kiva was born, and two of Ixa's other wielders were a mother and daughter, a generation apart. Specter's father and sister became Zero Specter and Kanon Specter in movies/specials after the end of Ghost proper. And Build's father was a prototype Build.

    A couple of near-misses: Black's villain Shadow Moon, who was sort of a pseudo-Rider, was Black's stepbrother. And Zeronos is the younger version of the man who nearly became Den-O's brother-in-law.
     
  2. KamenRiderBlade

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    So that means they haven't tried making a entire primary family unit the Primary, Secondary, & Tertiary Riders yet.

    This could lead to some interesting dynamics =D
     
  3. Samurai8472

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    Well this is a surprise. Kishiryu Sentai Ryusoulger: The Legacy of the Master’s Soul announced

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    -The story takes place right before the Druidon return to Earth and will see the Masters seek out their replacements.

    Additonal casts includes Matsuda Kenji as "Nire", Older-brother disciple to Master Red (like Nada was to Koh); Kanakage Kanon as "Izuka", Master Pink's disciple; Miyazaki Karen as "Mayu" a former disciple of Master Blue who left to study RyuSouls and Komai Ren as "Hana", a mysterious girl.
     
  4. KamenRiderBlade

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    That wasn't the side story movie I was expecting.
     
  5. KamenRiderBlade

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    I just watched the 2nd ep of KR Revice. Our new protagonist seems to have his head on straight and knows what is important.

    I'm starting to like him since he won't take crap from his inner Demon.

    Is this the first Kamen Rider with a normal Family unit presented on screen?

    Mom, Dad, & Siblings. All shown as main cast members too!

    Can any of you remember any Kamen Rider with all parents & siblings shown so early, or ever?
     
  6. Christopher

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    Well, Kamen Rider V3's parents and sister were shown in his first episode, but they were also murdered in his first episode, so I don't think that's what you're looking for.

    Agito was amnesiac and didn't know who his real family was, but he lived with a surrogate family, the Kazayas, for most of the series. Similarly, Hibiki was supported by the Tachibana family; they were his allies in the Takeshi organization rather than a surrogate family, but they were a family unit that played a central role in the series. There were several Riders who lived with one relative, often a sister (Kabuto, Den-O, Gaim), but as for the primary Rider having both parents and one or more siblings as regular characters, this does seem to be the first.
     
  7. Samurai8472

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    This is cool. Amazons and Revice actor Kazuya Tanabe is in the new Netflix movie "Kate" with Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1437384718119546890


    Also Taki Mochizuki one of the producer's for Kamen Rider Revice has said that the show is in a Gokaiger type universe where all the previous Rider shows all occurred:

    https://news.mynavi.jp/article/20210905-1964727/

     
  8. KamenRiderBlade

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    Watched the most recent ep of KR Revice ep 3.

    The little sister is showing serious competence & cajones for becoming a willing hostage to help out her friend.

    The little brother is going to be the major point of contention, no way can I see him becoming the tertiary rider given the way he currently behaves.

    He feels liks Shuji Mihara from KR 555, the user of Delta Gear and very reluctant to become a Kamen Rider.

    As for latest ep of Zenkaiger, I do really like the fact that Kaito pulled a feint on Tojitendo by pretending that he rescued his mother when he really hadn't.

    This relieves some of the heat off of other parallel worlds.

    A very noble thing to do and the right thing to do.

    And now Kaito is secretly searching parallel worlds for his mom.
     
  9. Christopher

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    I'm rooting for Sakura to become the next Rider. She's clearly more qualified than Daiji.

    And I think the user of that second driver would technically classified as a Secondary Rider. The KR Wiki classifies both Revi & Vice as "Main Riders," so whoever comes next would be Secondary. Kinda like how various Rangers are counted as Sixth Rangers even when the corresponding teams don't have 5 members (4 for Abaranger, 3 for Go-Busters, Lupin, & Pat, 9 for Kyuuranger) or when two characters share Sixth Ranger status (Go-on Wings, Beet & Stag Buster). It's more about how they fit into the narrative (and toy-marketing) formula than the exact numbers.
     
  10. KamenRiderBlade

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    I'm with you on that, she's shown more cajones in 3 episodes than Daiji has. Daiji "FROZE" when given the choice to transform and help people, something his brother showed none of and his sister started kicking arse as soon as arse kicking needed to happen.

    That's basic competence.

    I treat Vice as more of a Spiritual Creature Summon than a rider in the truest sense. He's like Momotaro, but only certain people can see him depending on the condition/state that he's in.

    6th Ranger is more of a title than a literal meaning at this point given all of Super Sentai history and the numerous team configurations.

    Kyuuranger still has to have one of my favorite Team Amounts / Settings. Though I wish they didn't re-use Red & Blue 2x and put in a real White/Brown Ranger.
     
  11. Christopher

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    All the more reason not to count him as a Secondary Rider, then.

    But we have yet to see Revi operate without Vice, and their finisher moves require them working in tandem. So I think that from a functional standpoint, the two of them are a single Primary Rider, to coin a phrase.
     
  12. KamenRiderBlade

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    I think you need a new phrase, because that is only somewhat accurate.

    The Two of them form a Rider & his Summon/Buddy Spirit/Creature.

    They don't occupy one body, Vice just hangs around and acts like a annoying brat when in spirit mode, he has no control over the Rider at any given time.

    I can imagine what KR Ghost would do if he saw this situation.

    A perfect excuse for a non-standard KR Cross-Over.
     
  13. Christopher

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    I'm talking about when they're in henshin. They're Kamen Rider Revi and Kamen Rider Vice, so yes, Vice is a Rider in his own right. And functionally, he and Revi share the Main Rider position and fight as a combi, so whatever Rider is introduced next will be a Secondary Rider. That's all I'm saying.
     
  14. KamenRiderBlade

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    Fair enough. I just don't see Vice as a Rider, he's basically Momotaros in physical form and a "Helper".

    Kind of like Zuban in Humanoid form from Boukenger.
     
  15. Christopher

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    Some of the later movies have Momotaros soloing as Den-O, since they couldn't get the original lead actor back. And you could argue that Kamen Riders Ex-Aid and Para-DX are a similar pairing to Revi and Vice, although Parado has an autonomous physical form.
     
  16. KamenRiderBlade

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    Momotaros got promoted into being a Rider since they couldn't get the original lead actor back (NOTE: He became too famous and expensive to hire).

    I'm sure KR Ex-Aid & Para-DX were the inspiration, but Parado can operate independently, which makes him his own rider.

    Vice can't even henshin on his own, so far. Who knows down the line. But as of right now, he's dependent on the protagonist to transform and to operate independently.
     
  17. Christopher

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    Well, he's officially Kamen Rider Vice. So it's not a matter of opinion.
     
  18. KamenRiderBlade

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    Fair enough, if Toei considers him KR Vice, then so be it.

    That's all the reasoning I need. Because Toei said so.
     
  19. Samurai8472

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  20. Christopher

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    Wow, that's much more of a literal recreation than I expected from the makers of Shin Godzilla. But then, that's just the teaser, I guess. The costume is interesting, at once extremely authentic in design but considerably modernized in the fine detail.

    And apparently his enemy is Kumo Otoko (Spider Man), the first foe the original faced. That's in keeping with tradition, as many later Riders' first monsters-of-the-week have been spider-themed.