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Kiramager episode 20

I didn't expect Jyuruu's cute friend to make another appearance.

I like how this series took a jab at the "Core mecha combines with 6th ranger mecha" trope LOL. This year has been very lowkey on mecha combining. I guess it's a breather from Ryusoulger.

Not even the upcoming DX Zabyun has any big combination surprises. It mostly just gives some firepower for Kiramajin to hold.


We also got another PPAP reference

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Fun episode. Fun choreography with Red and the girl stuck together. Jyuuru's mean-girl classmate who turned out not so mean was pretty cute and well-played, and had a good arc through the episode. I'm surprised this is her first appearance since the movie. Speaking of firsts, it's the first time in a while we got a callback to the original concept that Jyuuru is the obscure one in a team of super-famous people.

What bugged me about the stuck-together premise was, why didn't Jyuuru just take his glove off? For that matter, why did the effect persist through two henshins, with the glove vanishing and then reappearing without affecting the bond? In that brief scanning scene, they should've put in a line about the glue bonding them on a deeper level than just the surface, or something.

When the classmate said she got in trouble for gluing her brother's toys together, I though that was setting up a solution involving huge amounts of nail polish remover.
 
I like how they also spun the trope on superheroes and people knowing their identities.

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And they actually fridged Sayo LOL

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I like how they also spun the trope on superheroes and people knowing their identities.

They never really seemed to have an issue with secret identities before, and they freely changed back to their famous selves in front of Mizuki. So I'm not clear on why they were so worried about protecting Jyuuru's identity.


And they actually fridged Sayo LOL

I didn't make that connection, considering she was, y'know, alive and all.
 
Kamen Rider Zero-One episode 45

Well the first Reiwa era Kamen Rider series is done.

I'm sad it's all over, well okay there's the movie to look forward to and some specials before they beat the horse dead. I'm going to miss this series.

Also I guess Azu will be explained later, considering the tease. I am quite glad they didn't just pull out some magical explanation to restore Izu, it's both nice and heartbreaking they remade her body.

So we start at zero all over again......

I've heard some objections and some support of rebuilding and training Izu. Why not have this Izu be different and pursue her own dreams?

That ending where Aruto was teaching Izu 2.0 his comic catchphrase nearly brought me to tears :(

Gotta love that we get the full final battle and wrap ups for our main cast, but just because Azu created Eden for the movie, Zero-One's ending is "Decade 2" despite actually having more of an in-show ending than Decade LOL

It's kinda cute that Zero-Ones true final form is Zero-One. Also cute that they got Realise (RealXEyes) in there via Realising Impact. Beyond cute to see an army of Thouser dogs.

Apparently the writers wanted Zero-One's ending to be different from other series.



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Omori promises that "Zero-One's conclusion is complete different from any other Rider series". It will be very Zero-One and represent what Reiwa is in the current climate.

No big monster to kill, Horobi survives and he and Aruto simply recognize the humanity in each other and let go of their hate. Will be interesting if that's a running theme in these first few Reiwa series.

Some really interesting behind the scenes facts about the show


https://twitter.com/TomConstantines/status/1300248968320880640?s=19


-Omori admits that some fans didn't like the "5 Job Competition" arc, but he loved it and viewing figures grew during that period

-There was going to be an anime sequence in episode 5-6 but it was impossible to make in the time constraint

-Originally they had planned for Gai to take over Hiden Intelligence a lot sooner, with Gai sat in Aruto's office with Izu beside him around the New Year's holiday. Eventually they realized it was too quick as people wanted to see Aruto as CEO more.

- Omori worries that Gai's evil intentions were actually a little too realistic and a character doing workplace harassment on a Sunday morning might have been a little too heavy

- Gai getting beaten up a bunch later on was a reaction to backlash to the "5 Job Competition" arc.

- If Corona hadn't occurred, they would have had 14 episodes left, but the break cost them 4 episodes and they had already penned the following 4... which left them with 6 episodes to wrap everything up


That Twitter thread about the producer discussion REALLY illustrates a lot of the problems with Zero-One.

This whole endgame feels like the finale to an entirely different show than the 40 or so episodes that came prior to it and no, that really can't be blamed entirely on the COVID problem. They clearly had an idea of who they wanted the final fight to involve... and yet had done practically no real preparation for that the entire season and so had to quickly write in the scenario to get there. This then comes at the cost of pretty much everything it felt like the painfully drawn-out job-of-the-week had tried to make a point out of, and didn't feel earned for any of the characters involved.


For some reason the Japanese audience really like the sort of episodic two parters with guest stars and human interest stories that started with Den-O and continued with W/OOO/Fouze/Wizard/1stHalfOfDrive. Maybe it's easier to get into versus the serial arcs (Gaim/Build/Ex-Aid) where missing just one episode can confuse the hell out of casual viewers. Zero One was really an attempt to bridge these two storytelling formats and the result were ultimately mixed.


In the end this might be a series I can rewatch when i'm bored on a plane or long road trip. I think the characters of Aruto and Izu make it rewatchable worthy

I think the bad parts of the show were Yaiba's underutilized potential and that competition arc

Naki could have had more focus too.
 
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Kamen Rider Zero-One episode 45

Well the first Reiwa era Kamen Rider series is done.

I'm sad it's all over, well okay there's the movie to look forward to and some specials before they beat the horse dead. I'm going to miss this series.[/quote]

Yes... This is easily one of my favorite KR series, and I'm sorry to see it go, especially 4 episodes early. It was a pretty effective ending, with Aruto prevailing by connecting emotionally to Horobi and making him realize their common ground, and what really motivated him. I was really struck by Horobi's line about how he hated humans for teaching him the emotions that caused him such pain, and wanted to punish them for that.

Still, it was awkward that they had to pay off the expected formula by going from that epiphany to another big fight scene that seemed like a step backward.

Also, the supporting cast was really underutilized, although at least Yua got to play a major role by bringing Jin back.

But how did Fuwa/Vulcan manage to rip that car door clear off in civilian form rather than Rider form? Has his arm just gotten that strong from wrenching all those Progrise Keys open?


Also I guess Azu will be explained later, considering the tease. I am quite glad they didn't just pull out some magical explanation to restore Izu, it's both nice and heartbreaking they remade her body.

As much as I like it that Noa Tsurushima will still be around, it seems inappropriate and disrespectful to just try to create a copy of Izu, as if she were interchangeable rather than a unique and complex personality in her own right. I'll have a hard time accepting this "Izu" as a substitute for the real one that I came to admire so much.

For a moment, I was thinking that maybe Jin would reform Azu, and she would atone for her evil deeds by taking Izu's place -- not a mere copy, but a distinct successor trying to fill the void. That could've been interesting.


Gotta love that we get the full final battle and wrap ups for our main cast, but just because Azu created Eden for the movie, Zero-One's ending is "Decade 2" despite actually having more of an in-show ending than Decade LOL

I wouldn't go that far. They completed the main story but just put in a tease for what comes next, like having Thanos show up in the post-credits scene of The Avengers. That's totally different from Decade, which just stopped on a cliffhanger and didn't resolve the core story arc until the following crossover movie. (Not to mention also only explaining Decade's origins and backstory in a movie, so that's two movies you needed to get the complete core narrative.)


This whole endgame feels like the finale to an entirely different show than the 40 or so episodes that came prior to it and no, that really can't be blamed entirely on the COVID problem. They clearly had an idea of who they wanted the final fight to involve... and yet had done practically no real preparation for that the entire season and so had to quickly write in the scenario to get there. This then comes at the cost of pretty much everything it felt like the painfully drawn-out job-of-the-week had tried to make a point out of, and didn't feel earned for any of the characters involved.

I dunno, I felt it connected fairly well. It refocused on the symmetry of the core relationships -- Horobi mentoring Jin, Aruto mentoring and being mentored in turn by Izu. Both leaders of the opposing sides, opposing points of view on whether humans and Humagears could coexist. With Ark manipulating the whole conflict all along, then manifesting more openly in the climactic, well, arc. The one bit that felt like it came out of left field was the new ZAIA president who just popped up.


For some reason the Japanese audience really like the sort of episodic two parters with guest stars and human interest stories that started with Den-O and continued with W/OOO/Fouze/Wizard/1stHalfOfDrive. Maybe it's easier to get into versus the serial arcs (Gaim/Build/Ex-Aid) where missing just one episode can confuse the hell out of casual viewers. Zero One was really an attempt to bridge these two storytelling formats and the result were ultimately mixed.

I kind of like the regular 2-parter format. It's basically akin to a 24- or 26-episode season of hourlong episodes, and it lets them have more time to tell each story. Plus it makes it less repetitive since you don't have to end every single episode with a monster blowing up or whatever. And of course it has obvious budgetary advantages because you only need half as many distinct monsters-of-the-week.


I think the bad parts of the show were Yaiba's underutilized potential and that competition arc

I didn't have anything particularly for or against the competition arc. It was a way to keep up the 2-part guest-driven formula while also telling a story arc about Aruto vs. Gai and their corporate clash. I agree, though, with the comment in the Twitter thread about the Rider/monster fights feeling tacked on.

But yes, Yaiba/Valkyrie was given short shrift. Our first series-regular female Kamen Rider (not counting series regulars who became a Rider once in the finale or a sequel movie) deserved better.


I am going to miss this show, which has been one of the most solid science fiction entries in the franchise. Saber is going more for fantasy, but it does look promising, and I hope it does a good job filling the void.
 
I'm glad Zero-One is over. The "5 Job Competition Arc" was absolutely atrocious, and it drove me away from the show completely, not that I was all that enthusiastic about the show anyway (I like more calm or cool Rider leads, hyperactive loud Riders are as annoying to me as "Screaming Reds" are in Sentai). Hopefully Kamen Rider Saber is nothing like Zero-One. I like the look/premise so far, so hopefully it does well.

As for Sentai, I'm watching Kiramager and its...ok. Its a fairly low stakes sentai, and honestly not that interesting, but its just good enough that I keep watching, although its definitely going to be a show where I forget most of it the second the next series starts, and even over 10 episodes in I can't tell you any character's name.
 
But how did Fuwa/Vulcan manage to rip that car door clear off in civilian form rather than Rider form? Has his arm just gotten that strong from wrenching all those Progrise Keys open?

Not sure what Fuwa's deal is, running around city and saving people by punching cars. How would he pay his bills? LOL

Some characters just walk around all day or got offered a place to stay by someone they did a favor for.

I meant to post this before the finale

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Aw they made Kabuto look adorable with the big eyes.
 
I found the Saber trailer on youtube, and the swords on the masks don't like quite as weird in action as they did in the pictures.
 
Kiramager 21: A pretty good one, with a clever twist to how the villain was operating and how Shiguru figured it out. Also some nice drama between Mabushiina and Takamichi as the former's curse finally begins to manifest. Although I think the scene where Mabushiina was finally told about the curse was undermined a bit by having the big red rectangular prism tell the tragic story instead of someone with actual facial expressions. I was just getting interested by the fact that of all of them, Shiguru was the one who decided to come out and tell the princess the truth. And then the big red rock spoke up and took over the scene. I still feel the featurelessness of the Kiramei Stones makes them the least effective sentient mecha from a design standpoint, because it's hard to see a box as an actual character, no matter how much it jiggles around as it talks. (Oddly, though, I didn't have this problem with Ai-chan on Zero-One, perhaps because she was more clearly an inanimate device and thus didn't fall short of my expectations for an animate, mobile character, and because even her fairly simple design had more visual detail than the Kiramei Stones.)

I wasn't expecting the cliffhanger ending. Kind of ironic that we get a continuing, 2-part Sentai story over the same two weeks that Kamen Rider ends one series and begins a separate one.
 
I ALMOST wanted Mabushina to say

“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
 
I found a site with a bunch of the current and recent Sentai, Kamen Rider, and Ultraman shows. I do get some pop ups and things like that, but I'm gonna give a try and hope I don't run into any problems with it.
 
Kiramager episode 22

You could definitely tell this episode was directed by Koichi with all the flashy action and fight with the witch

I like that everyone had something to contribute. Sayo was in Mashin Express. Tametomo and Sena and Jyuruu went back in time.

Nice that we finally get a coherent look with Zabyuu combining with Mashin Express.

I liked that visor feature that KirameiPink showed off. It was sort of like the 1995 MMPR helmets

Interesting that in the dark daylight that KirameiSilver's sash looked like he was evil again
 
Kira 22: Kind of a superficial finish to the rather dramatic first part. So much noisy action and clutter, and the solution happened offscreen and was hastily recapped in a flashback.

The time-travel plan didn't make any sense. "We need to affect the past as little as possible, so let's confront the combatants directly and delay their fight?" How is that smart? Just wait until the witch leaves her teacup behind to start the battle, then collect it while everyone's occupied. I mean, of course they needed to have a confrontation happen so they could do all the fight scenes, but at least it could've been due to the plan going wrong, rather than literally being part of the plan.


I liked that visor feature that KirameiPink showed off. It was sort of like the 1995 MMPR helmets

Didn't the Megaranger visors have scanning functions like that?


I found a sub of Kamen Rider Saber episode 1. It has some elements that show promise and others that are off-putting. There's a cutesy narrator character from a fantasy realm telling the story as a framing device, which is kind of silly and annoying. Between that, the inclusion of children as supporting characters, and the Sentai-style dance-sequence end titles, it feels like they're going in a more kid-friendly direction, in contrast to 21st-century KR's usual tendency to skew a bit older than SS.

But I do kind of like the lead characters. Touma is a reasonably appealing lead so far, a writer who takes promises seriously and is offended by the idea of books being used for evil. He's a more confident and willing hero than Aruto was, though not yet particularly nuanced. Hopefully that will come. He does have a mystery about his past and his connection to the previous Saber, which I'm sure will be developed.

Touma's editor Mei is fun. I liked the sheer joy and wonder she displayed when confronted with the fantastic parallel world they were transported to, and upon seeing Touma become a Kamen Rider. I definitely agree with the comparisons to Akiko from Kamen Rider W; the actresses are similar types with similarly broad, comedic performance styles. I think Asuka Kawazu (Mei) is somewhat sexier, though it remains to be seen if she's as gifted a comic actress as Hikaru Yamamoto (Akiko) was.

Too early to say much about the villains. The device of the disembodied mechanical hands writing books as a result of the evil things they're doing is an interesting visual, though there's no sense yet of what it's for. I wonder if every episode will involve part of the city getting taken to the parallel world. The use of turning book pages to transition between worlds is another engaging visual idea. I also like the flip-book animation effect when the Riders use some of their powers.
 
I found a sub of Kamen Rider Saber episode 1. It has some elements that show promise and others that are off-putting. There's a cutesy narrator character from a fantasy realm telling the story as a framing device, which is kind of silly and annoying. Between that, the inclusion of children as supporting characters, and the Sentai-style dance-sequence end titles, it feels like they're going in a more kid-friendly direction, in contrast to 21st-century KR's usual tendency to skew a bit older than SS.

Rider is becoming Sentai.

but you don't have to take...... my word for it.

;)

So what is the point of keeping Sentai around again? LOL Also like sentai there was a stock henshin for Kamen Rider Saber

No. I'm waiting for the big swerve into disturbing reality for Kamen Rider like Ex-Aid or Build level moments. May be fun and games right now but I think something dramatic will happen. We've already got Calibur and his friends plotting things in the shadows.

Lyrical version of the opening theme

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This is also the first time a Kamen Rider show has had an ED since the first half of Hibiki.
 
So what is the point of keeping Sentai around again? LOL Also like sentai there was a stock henshin for Kamen Rider Saber

Oh, that's right. They usually don't do that in KR. Henshins usually happen in situ rather than cutting away to a virtual space or stock animation.

Come to think of it, this is sort of a return to Showa-era KR in some ways as well. Some Showa seasons such as Amazon and Black had stock cutaway henshin sequences. They all had end-title songs as well, and routinely featured guest-star children that the Riders had to protect or rescue.

I just hope they aren't returning to the less sophisticated, more episodic writing of those series.


No. I'm waiting for the big swerve into disturbing reality for Kamen Rider like Ex-Aid or Build level moments. May be fun and games right now but I think something dramatic will happen. We've already got Calibur and his friends plotting things in the shadows.

Yeah, that's what I'm holding out hope for. KR sometimes starts out with something that seems frivolous and then swerves into much more intense, dramatic territory, as we saw in Zero-One with Aruto starting out as a goofy wannabe comedian and going in a much deeper, darker direction eventually. Perhaps the epitome of this was Gaim, which started out looking incredibly silly -- fruit-based samurai armor coming out of zippers in the sky? The Riders as members of battling dance troupes? -- but quickly revealed an increasingly dark, complex, high-stakes purpose for it all and ended up becoming one of the franchise's most epic, cosmic, and powerful series.

Gaim had a pseudo-narrator figure who seemed obnoxious and comical at first, DJ Sagara, but he turned out to be an integral figure in the narrative with lots of hidden depths. I'm hoping something similar will happen with this Tassel character, though so far it seems unlikely.


The theme song is decent, though the singing voice is too processed (though fortunately not to the degree of autotuning/distortion that makes it agonizing for me to listen to). So far the incidental music sounds pretty good.
 
Yeah, that's what I'm holding out hope for. KR sometimes starts out with something that seems frivolous and then swerves into much more intense, dramatic territory, as we saw in Zero-One with Aruto starting out as a goofy wannabe comedian and going in a much deeper, darker direction eventually. Perhaps the epitome of this was Gaim, which started out looking incredibly silly -- fruit-based samurai armor coming out of zippers in the sky? The Riders as members of battling dance troupes? -- but quickly revealed an increasingly dark, complex, high-stakes purpose for it all and ended up becoming one of the franchise's most epic, cosmic, and powerful series.

Gaim had a pseudo-narrator figure who seemed obnoxious and comical at first, DJ Sagara, but he turned out to be an integral figure in the narrative with lots of hidden depths. I'm hoping something similar will happen with this Tassel character, though so far it seems unlikely.


The theme song is decent, though the singing voice is too processed (though fortunately not to the degree of autotuning/distortion that makes it agonizing for me to listen to). So far the incidental music sounds pretty good.


Perhaps there's a consequence to flipping back between worlds. Maybe someone can "rip" the pages of the world/reality from existing or rewrite existence entirely.


I think they're going to make the narrator like "Kamen Rider Ghost" old man Shaman. Which would makes sense considering who's writing the series

Also there's the concept of another alternate world existing alongside ours

But I'm cautious about this series. I'm watching you Fukada. Don't turn this into another Ghost.


I like the phrase of the theme song. "The Saber is in your hand". It's got a more mellow tone compared to Zero-One's shouting/yelling of the lyrics.
 
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I came to be very fond of "REALxEYEZ," and I watched the Zero-One title sequence all the way through with the sound on every week, even though it's not a musical style I'd expect myself to be fond of. I just liked the melody, I guess. And I loved the title images, especially that moment of Izu reaching out her hand to help Aruto up from the rubble. I wish American TV shows had specially-made title sequences as creative, textured, and symbolic as the ones in Japanese shows. There are so many layers there.
 
Passing of the baton ceremony from a longer talk show segment. I love all the traditions the Japanese put into these shows.

Wow. Didn't realize(har har) that Aruto's actor is actually shorter than Touma

Zero-One to Saber

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I didn't notice till a few days ago but the "baton" is colored in the riders colors. Neat

Also LOL at the final moments with an "Aruto Jai Naitooo!" to close it out. Hope this gets subbed soon so we can understand the gag
 
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