And Omega. Don’t forget Omega.
Has the Doctor been a Woman before?
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And Omega. Don’t forget Omega.
The seventh doctor spent a story or two dressed as a nun in the novels.
Yes, it's always good to have actual hard data when dealing with things that are figments of our imagination
Imagine hooking a 3D printer up to our brains, so those figments could be made real. What horrors await?
Hey, put that quote in quotes!
Imagine hooking a 3D printer up to our brains, so those figments could be made real. What horrors await?
Hey, put that quote in quotes!
The power of the Q, sorta.
Maybe a cheap Q, possibly a q, or Trelane
Rassilon was the Thomas Edison of his planet; though a brilliant scientist/inventor in his own right, he was not above stealing credit for other people's innovations. Omega was the big exception since Rassilon couldn't credibly claim to have made that one-way trip down a black hole himself.
The 12 regeneration limit was indeed created by Rassilon - to ensure that only he could enjoy true immortality.
So the reapperance of Tom Baker's form, the "revisiting old favourites" and the implication the Doctor eventually retires to enjoy true un-ending life could well happen. Sometime in this series of regenerations, the Time Lord's ability to keep on going is given back to them?
It’s a grey area.
Frankly, the new regeneration cycle has been a thing a very long time, and Rassilons immortality and the regeneration limit both have vague explanations. Some say it’s basically that after twelve you start getting a bit split personality, and that the risk of insanity is so great that’s why the limit was imposed. All it took was a five aside team and a trauma for six to go a bit nuts at first, and twelve nee fourteen had his wobbles with a Sunday eleven in the noggin. 13 unlucky for some nee fifteen has terrible taste in clothes, which also seems to be a symptom. Look at the master dressing for the occasion on a borrowed life....it’s always in the sartorial choices you can tell. Borusa started wearing comedy headgear when he went nuts, and Omega went all doctor doom with occasional bouts of teapot.
I thought our entire electrical grid of "alternating" current was based upon Tesla's concepts being selected by Westinghouse over Edison's "direct" current method that would have required power plants every couple of miles. I would think that would count as having "done some stuff".
I was under the impression Tesla was a ‘forgotten’ engineer recently in vogue. Like Babbage with computing. If he actually got something done, then yay. My understanding was Tesla was underrated and passed over essentially. Which in many ways is also true of Omega in some respects.
He also developed the concept for radio transmission before Marconi, even going so far as to construct an "RC" boat. But the patent he got was cancelled when Marconi came along a few years later because his family was wealthy and had "connections". Now, it's possible Marconi developed his concepts truly independent of Tesla's (that is, Marconi did not "steal" Tesla's math and designs), but when it was realized Tesla had already submitted for the patent, "deeds" were done to have it nullified.
Tesla's major failing was that he was not a "businessman", strictly an inventor and various parties took advantage of that. Even Westinghouse, who awarded Tesla the power grid contract after illuminating the World's Fair, would, years later, claim he could not continue to pay Tesla and the latter tore up the contract on "good faith". Tesla never got another dime from Westinghouse. Instead of dying penniless and in obscurity, he might have been a millionaire. At least those experiences did not dampen his passion for developing more electrical based concepts.
Tesla's major failing was that he was not a "businessman", strictly an inventor and various parties took advantage of that. Even Westinghouse, who awarded Tesla the power grid contract after illuminating the World's Fair, would, years later, claim he could not continue to pay Tesla and the latter tore up the contract on "good faith". Tesla never got another dime from Westinghouse. Instead of dying penniless and in obscurity, he might have been a millionaire. At least those experiences did not dampen his passion for developing more electrical based concepts.
They've already dropped hints that the Doctor's new regeneration cycle is open-ended. In "Kill the Moon," the Doctor said he didn't know how many regenerations he had left, and it was entirely possible that he'd never stop, and in "Hell Bent," Rassilon (who should really know, if anyone does) also taunted the Doctor that he didn't know how many regenerations he'd have to go through to finally kill him for good, but he was willing to take all the time he needed.
As for regenerating into a prior form, I've been speculating that the Doctor is getting better at regeneration as they get more practice, being able to spend longer periods of time "riding the wave" and being restored to health before actually having to go through the change, and having more (albeit subconscious) control over what the next incarnation would look like (the Tenth Doctor being influenced by his relationship with Rose, the Twelfth taking a face from his past to help keep him from losing his way again, and Thirteen happening after weeks of conversation with the Masters, Bill, and the First Doctor on the merits of femininity). The Curator's form could've been an intentional act of will, or even just an expression of some nostalgia he was feeling prior to that regeneration (something that's not unprecedented. In-universe, the Tenth Doctor leaned on the fourth wall saying he was reliving his time as the Fifth a bit, and Twelve had a habit of channeling Four here and there, most notably when he was talking to himself in "Mummy," but also scattered throughout in stray words and phrases).
I've always interpreted the regeneration "gifting" from Time of the Doctor as Clara speaking to "Gallifrey" - i.e., the entire populace - and the Doctor receiving the collective regeneration energy of an entire planet. Which neatly explains how no one really understands how much life the Doctor has. But that's merely fan conjecture.
Again, we do know that Moffat was looking to "correct" the regeneration limit by addressing it, eliminating it and then basically obliterating it.
Again, we do know that Moffat was looking to "correct" the regeneration limit by addressing it, eliminating it and then basically obliterating it.
I did think at the time that the new cycle was gifted from the people themselves, Rassilon was powerless to stop them thanking the Doctor how they saw fit.
It does mean that after 12 she'll be meeting each one thinking or resigned to it maybe being the last. Each new form could be a total whim.
It does mean that after 12 she'll be meeting each one thinking or resigned to it maybe being the last. Each new form could be a total whim.
Actually, Moffat was perfectly willing to ignore the regeneration limit. Back in 2010 he even seemed to endorse RTD's 507 thing from Matt Smith's appearance in SJA. The only reason he brought it back was because it was a canonical precedent for why the Doctor wouldn't be able to regenerate in Time of the Doctor.
^ Yes, he came up with the idea after creating the War Doctor and finding it a natural story telling point for Time. As you say, he and RTD chose to ignore it for the large part. But then he addressed it, eliminated - running out of lives & being given new ones, obliterated - no one has any idea how many they have, which is freeing for future writers. I don't see how my point differs from yours. This is what the did in the episode.
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