I for one hope this isn't a one-off, like the Miami Vice movie or (shudder) the Lost In Space movie.
Has Paramount made a big mistake?
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Oh really good question. I think it'll be split. Hopefully there will be more people who think Kirk and Spock are like Bond and Batman, because it means that there will always be new stories like with the Bond and Batman Universes. (But that means that there will be different timelines, and universes, like in Batman. I think Star Trek is LUCKY to have been in the same universe on the same timeline - not counting the mirror universe- for 40 years)
I know that there are some fans that think the latter, that Kirk and Spock were only the Shat and Nimoy.
I think the film will do well, most true fans will go to see it regardless. And having some new faces playing old rolls may well bring in people to see how well it works out.
That's what I am worried about as well. Personally, i think the movie is a mistake because I dont have enough faith that the general audience likes trek enough to go see this remake. That said, it does seem as if this movie is finally getting the studio backing that trek deserves, so hopefully that will change things. Time will tell I suppose. At the very least, I will be able to go into theaters and watch trek one last time.
This movie will certainly get audience in the door... in sizable numbers... for the first weekend. How it fares after that is what's really in question. The hype is sufficient to get people in up-front, but I've seen plenty of hyped movies subsequently fall flat on their faces.
I doubt this movie will "fall flat on its face." I think it'll be a typical big-budget popcorn movie, and will make a reasonable amount of money. I don't think it's going to be one of those films that everybody thinks "changes everything," and I think that it's probably going to result in MORE, not LESS, "mockery of Star Trek" coming along, not to mention what is likely to be a permanent split in fandom to rival the Pro-nu-BSG and Anti-nu-BSG "death squads" we see now.
In other words... this movie will be a mainstream, moderate success. It will not capture audience imagination, nor draw in a "new generation of fans." It may end up being the "last hurrah" for Star Trek (and as such, is probably preferable to the latter TNG-era films, or ENT). Or it may give birth to new follow-on projects which are essentially unrelated.
But I really don't expect to see this "create a new wave of fandom" who will somehow feel any form of loyalty or any particular love for this new iteration.
I doubt this movie will "fall flat on its face." I think it'll be a typical big-budget popcorn movie, and will make a reasonable amount of money. I don't think it's going to be one of those films that everybody thinks "changes everything," and I think that it's probably going to result in MORE, not LESS, "mockery of Star Trek" coming along, not to mention what is likely to be a permanent split in fandom to rival the Pro-nu-BSG and Anti-nu-BSG "death squads" we see now.
In other words... this movie will be a mainstream, moderate success. It will not capture audience imagination, nor draw in a "new generation of fans." It may end up being the "last hurrah" for Star Trek (and as such, is probably preferable to the latter TNG-era films, or ENT). Or it may give birth to new follow-on projects which are essentially unrelated.
But I really don't expect to see this "create a new wave of fandom" who will somehow feel any form of loyalty or any particular love for this new iteration.
Yes, Paramount will go bankrupt since Bill Shatner isn´t in it.
I would rather have Paramount bankrupt than Shatner in this movie! He'd ruin it!!
I read your post twice and it still didn't make any sense to me. Although I am sure its not the goal of the movie, I could very well see a TV series resulting out of this movie, though not immediately after. A Bad Robot production of course.
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Well, they NEED to be like Bond and Batman. And frankly, I think they will be.
Otherwise, you can permanently say goodbye to the TOS crew. Two of the key actors are dead, and the rest are not exactly spring chickens. I mean, can you see Shatner doing some of the stuff he did in TOS now?
I don't think he could get his body to do half that stuff these days.
I'm hoping that this new gang will do a good job. If they do, then more TOS-based films will be on the horizon. And that would be a good thing.
Let's just hope for more than The Day the Earth Stood Still numbers... 
Let's just hope for more than The Day the Earth Stood Still numbers...
Ha ha, yes... Trek looks like loads of fun though.
Good question. Although it's hard to say yet, I'd have thought that the public won't have an issue (though the two Spocks might be more of a hindrance; my only concern). The fans will probably be split. Of course, what the fans think ultimately won't be worth a jot as long as it's a hit. And I think it will be a hit.
Which is why I believe this movie should have been moved to be released in mid April.
What part are you missing?
I'm saying that it's not likely to suddenly result in a bazillion new fans. Very few real "new fans," most likely... though plenty of people who'll go watch the flick and enjoy it to a reasonable degree.
I'm saying that it's likely to damage what's left of existing fandom.
I'm saying that PPC/CBS-TV are both watching this closely... it's a test, to see if Trek is really "dead" (as they thought it was post-ENT) or if it's just been mismanaged and can be revived if given new management.
As for a new series... get real. How many of the actors in this flick are going to sign on for a TV series. Pegg certainly won't... not in the US, at least. You'd have to kill off "Heroes" to get your Quinto-as-Spock full-time. Pine is shooting to become a "leading man" and I sincerely doubt he wants to spend his "glory years" playing Kirk. Urban... do you see him giving up his movie career for a TV series? Who do you think will do that?
Nahhh... not a chance. At most, we'd be talking about a couple of movies.
But a new TV series with these actors? No way.
And a movie series is... only an option at this point. Something no studio in their right mind would fail to prepare for, no matter whether it's going to happen or not. But if it DOES happen... we're talking a trio of films, no more, I'm sure.
(And if they DO do that couple of movies, even if it's the same actors, playing (for all practical purposes) the same characters, it's not the "pre-reset" versions, I'm certain. Sort of like the "Yesterday's Enterprise" Picard or Riker weren't the same ones as in the normal TNG timeline - but in every meaningful way, were the same.)
All of those films were relatively low budget. The biggest box office went to TMP and TVH (1 and 4).
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Let's just hope for more than The Day the Earth Stood Still numbers...
You know, that is what I have always feared, that someone would take Star Trek and turn it into a preachy anti-global warming bandstand, just like they did with DESS. ENT was always right on the edge of stuffing the writer's sense of right and wrong down our throats, and I wonder how long it will be before Star Trek becomes purely didactic.
^Same here!Let's just hope for more than The Day the Earth Stood Still numbers...
You know, that is what I have always feared, that someone would take Star Trek and turn it into a preachy anti-global warming bandstand, just like they did with DESS. ENT was always right on the edge of stuffing the writer's sense of right and wrong down our throats, and I wonder how long it will be before Star Trek becomes purely didactic.
Except that Star Trek will rock, and from the trailers, T4 looks boring as heck. :-)
I am partially joking, of course ... I think that if Star Trek is as good as I am hoping it will be, it will both bring in a ton of new people (who doesn't have a friend into Star Trek?), and keep the fans happy. I wonder ... are there more Terminator fans or Star Trek fans? Anyways, the pre-movie hype award def has to go to Star Trek, imho. In the end though, we will have to wait and see
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Nope!
Paramount will make a profit with this move by the time the DVDs are sold out and in the bargain bin.
And that's ALL Paramount cares about.
