Has Anyone Changed Their Mind About The Movie?

[UFO]

The number of viewings since I purchased the blu-ray has been in the triple digits, and I love it just as much now as I did then.

... I can't imagine watching one movie more than once a season without getting sick of it, much less over a hundred times in one year.
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Has anyone checked STXI for subliminal messages? Just a theory but it would explain a lot!

IIRC there were people who watched the original "Star Wars" that many times. And I think that was at the theatre!

Edit: No, that seems crazy. But I do recall it was an unbelievable number. Anyone remember how many?

 

[Bill Morris]

Has anyone checked STXI for subliminal messages? Just a theory but it would explain a lot!

Maybe you mean psychotronics.

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15/news/digital-tv-mind-control-by-the-sound-of-silence/

 

[Amaris]

The number of viewings since I purchased the blu-ray has been in the triple digits, and I love it just as much now as I did then.

No... I mean... just... no way... how? Surely this isn't possible...

I watch my absolute favorite movies (Master and Commander, LA Confidential, The Big Lebowski, Memento, etc) at most twice a year. I can't imagine watching one movie more than once a season without getting sick of it, much less over a hundred times in one year.

Unless, of course, by 'triple digits' you mean you watched it 004 times this year.

Zing!
No, I really have watched it well into the triple digits. I lost count somewhere past 100.

 

[Gepard]

I lost count somewhere past 100.

Alright. We're gonna bring some nice men in here. Don't be afraid.

 

[Mokona]

I enjoyed it the first time I watched it.

I still enjoy sitting through it.

So no change for me.

 

[UFO]

Has anyone checked STXI for subliminal messages? Just a theory but it would explain a lot!

Maybe you mean psychotronics.

http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/12/15/news/digital-tv-mind-control-by-the-sound-of-silence/

Mother of space! I mean, mind controlling the whole human race so as to turn them into compliant down trodden zombies and slaves for the rest of eternity is certainly rather naughty.* But convincing 90% of Trekkies that STXI is a worthy addition to the stable of Star Trek movies is unspeakable evil incarnate! Oh the vulcanity! ()

* Hey Mr JJ, is it too late to change the script for the sequel?

 

[JarodRussell]

The number of viewings since I purchased the blu-ray has been in the triple digits, and I love it just as much now as I did then.

No... I mean... just... no way... how? Surely this isn't possible...

I watch my absolute favorite movies (Master and Commander, LA Confidential, The Big Lebowski, Memento, etc) at most twice a year. I can't imagine watching one movie more than once a season without getting sick of it, much less over a hundred times in one year.

Unless, of course, by 'triple digits' you mean you watched it 004 times this year.

Zing!
No, I really have watched it well into the triple digits. I lost count somewhere past 100.

Yeah right. To do that, you must have watched it every 4 days. Do you really have nothing better to do?

 

[Amaris]

No... I mean... just... no way... how? Surely this isn't possible...

I watch my absolute favorite movies (Master and Commander, LA Confidential, The Big Lebowski, Memento, etc) at most twice a year. I can't imagine watching one movie more than once a season without getting sick of it, much less over a hundred times in one year.

Unless, of course, by 'triple digits' you mean you watched it 004 times this year.

Zing!
No, I really have watched it well into the triple digits. I lost count somewhere past 100.

Yeah right. To do that, you must have watched it every 4 days. Do you really have nothing better to do?

What business is it of yours what I do in my spare time? I suggest you keep your disdain away from my personal life and focus on your contempt for the movie itself.

 

[JarodRussell]

Zing!
No, I really have watched it well into the triple digits. I lost count somewhere past 100.

Yeah right. To do that, you must have watched it every 4 days. Do you really have nothing better to do?

What business is it of yours what I do in my spare time? I suggest you keep your disdain away from my personal life and focus on your contempt for the movie itself.

Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

 

[Dukhat]

Yeah right. To do that, you must have watched it every 4 days. Do you really have nothing better to do?

What business is it of yours what I do in my spare time? I suggest you keep your disdain away from my personal life and focus on your contempt for the movie itself.

Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

He was being defensive because you were being smarmy. J. Allen can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[UFO]

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Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

He was being defensive because you were being smarmy. J. Allen can correct me if I'm wrong.

Not smarmy, but easily taken as aggressively personally disparaging (as well as questioning an already confirmed statement), especially given there was no indication of humour.

 

[Dukhat]

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Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

He was being defensive because you were being smarmy. J. Allen can correct me if I'm wrong.

Not smarmy, but easily taken as aggressively personally disparaging (as well as questioning an already confirmed statement), especially given there was no indication of humour.

Used the wrong word here. I stand corrected

 

[Joel_Kirk]

I haven't changed my mind, but I'm still wondering how...on a ship of 400 people did Kirk decide he was going to take command.

It's just like me coming on my first ship tour in the Navy...we're attacked...the captain is MIA...and I decide I'm going to take command (with a Lieutenant rank) because I know the commander, and the current fellow isn't right in the head. (At least, according to regulations).

I told this same thing to a friend, and he said something to the effect; "I look at it as something that was meant to be."

Maybe...

Anyway, that's my only major gripe; the rest of the film still holds up really well. I'm hoping they don't disappoint me with the sequel.

 

[Dukhat]

I haven't changed my mind, but I'm still wondering how...on a ship of 400 people did Kirk decide he was going to take command.

He didn't. Pike placed him under command. They were all going by the book. Also, I don't think the ship's complement was ever stated, was it? For all we know, the NuEnt could have had a crew of 2,000.

Now, of course, in reality, Kirk might have said, "you know, I'm sure there are plenty of people on this ship that are far more capable of taking command than I am." But this isn't reality. This is Star Trek. And the point of the movie was about Kirk taking command of the ship and saving the day, just like he always did in TOS.

 

[M'Sharak]

I haven't changed my mind, but I'm still wondering how...on a ship of 400 people did Kirk decide he was going to take command.

He didn't. Pike placed him under command. They were all going by the book.

Yup. From dialogue:

[Enterprise Engineering]
PIKE: [...] Mister Spock, I'm leaving you in command of the Enterprise. Once we have transport capabilities, communications back up, you'll contact Starfleet, report what the hell's going on here. And if all else fails, fall back, rendezvous with the fleet in the Laurentian system. Kirk, I'm promoting you to first officer.
KIRK: What?
SPOCK: Captain, please, I apologize. The complexities of Human pranks escape me.
PIKE: It's not a prank, Spock. And I'm not the Captain, you are. Let's go.

Spock (as acting Captain) removed himself from command. As Spock's designated first officer, Kirk didn't procedurally have the option of deciding - it was his duty to take over.

 

[BillJ]

I haven't changed my mind, but I'm still wondering how...on a ship of 400 people did Kirk decide he was going to take command.

He didn't. Pike placed him under command. They were all going by the book.

Yup. From dialogue:

[Enterprise Engineering]
PIKE: [...] Mister Spock, I'm leaving you in command of the Enterprise. Once we have transport capabilities, communications back up, you'll contact Starfleet, report what the hell's going on here. And if all else fails, fall back, rendezvous with the fleet in the Laurentian system. Kirk, I'm promoting you to first officer.
KIRK: What?
SPOCK: Captain, please, I apologize. The complexities of Human pranks escape me.
PIKE: It's not a prank, Spock. And I'm not the Captain, you are. Let's go.

Spock (as acting Captain) removed himself from command. As Spock's designated first officer, Kirk didn't procedurally have the option of deciding - it was his duty to take over.

Where the logic breaks down is that a third year cadet was the best option for first officer out of a crew of 1,100 in a crisis situation.

 

[UFO]

I haven't changed my mind, but I'm still wondering how...on a ship of 400 people did Kirk decide he was going to take command.
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I told this same thing to a friend, and he said something to the effect; "I look at it as something that was meant to be."

Maybe...

As mentioned its more that he is manoeuvred into it by others (Pike and SpockP mainly).

Anyway, that's my only major gripe; the rest of the film still holds up really well. ... .

I don't think you are trying hard enough (there are plenty of mid level problems with it even if you discount moral issues). Re that situation however, my concern is HOW Kirk took command rather than the fact that he ended up there (though obviously, given his experence, he shouldn't have kept it!).

But this isn't reality. This is Star Trek.

I doubt that's ever been as blatantly and repetitively "true" as it was in STXI.
Spock's reply to Pike about "human pranks" says it all!

 

[Anticitizen]

I've been one of the more vocal 'round here about the various and sundry problems I have with the movie, but that one doesn't bother me. It was an entire shipload of cadets, and Kirk happened to be standing right there. Of course, in real life, it wouldn't work that way - you don't get an instant field promotion just because the captain's stepping off the ship for a bit. Spock would still be the first officer and Kirk would, well, still be a rankless cadet. When Kirk handed the conn over to Spock in TOS, Sulu (or whoever) didn't get a promotion to First Lieutenant.

Of course it doesn't really make sense that they would send cadets in the first place. Surely, SURELY there would've been enough officers on leave or reservists (like McCoy in TMP) on Earth who could be called up in such an emergency.

Okay, maybe I do have a problem with it after all. But not so much in the context of that one scene.

 

[6079SmithW]

Of course, in real life, it wouldn't work that way - you don't get an instant field promotion just because the captain's stepping off the ship for a bit. Spock would still be the first officer and Kirk would, well, still be a rankless cadet.

He was doing more than simply stepping off the ship for a bit. He was basically giving himself up as a hostage to an enemy ship, with the understanding that he would be rescued if the plan succeeded.

It wasn't a literal rank promotion, Pike gave Spock the position of acting Captain and Kirk was promoted to the position of acting XO until such a time as Pike could be rescued.

Also, Kirk was not rank-less he was a full Lieutenant (O-3).

 

[Amaris]

What business is it of yours what I do in my spare time? I suggest you keep your disdain away from my personal life and focus on your contempt for the movie itself.

Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

He was being defensive because you were being smarmy. J. Allen can correct me if I'm wrong.

I knew what you meant, and you are correct.

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Why so defensive? Just wondering, that's all.

He was being defensive because you were being smarmy. J. Allen can correct me if I'm wrong.

Not smarmy, but easily taken as aggressively personally disparaging (as well as questioning an already confirmed statement), especially given there was no indication of humour.

Exactly. It's one thing to joke about watching it so many times, it's another to imply that how I spend my personal time is up for review.