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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 - Discuss and Grade

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And, Harry just 'grabbing' Draco's wand? He had to defeat it in the book!

Seriously, they couldn't even do this right. At least have them struggle before Harry captures the wand.
 
Speaking of the Hermione torture scene, am I the only one who found the image of Helena Bonham Carter mounting Emma Watson to be insanely hot?
 
^ Yeah, in a really disturbing, I can't believe I just thought that way.
I'm huge huge huge fan of the series and I absolutely loved the movie. Although TBH I don't remember a thing about the book, I haven't read it since it so came out, but my mom does and she said was pleased with how much they did stay true to the book. You guys have pretty summed up most of my feelings in your posts, especially about Hermione's torture and the elves (Dobby is the m....er Elf!). I really think that Hermione's torture actually worked better how they did it than if shown what she did. I really think it worked better when they leave it up to you imagination that by showing every detail. And I think we can safely say that the characters and the series itself have definitely grown up alot since Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone. My Rating: Excellent.
 
And, Harry just 'grabbing' Draco's wand? He had to defeat it in the book!

Seriously, they couldn't even do this right. At least have them struggle before Harry captures the wand.

In fairness, that's actually exactly how it happens in the book:

The chandelier crashed to the floor in an explosion of crystal and chains, falling on top of Hermione and the goblin who still clutched the sword of Gryffindor. Glittering shards of crystal flew in all directions; Draco doubled over, his hands covering his bloody face.

As Ron ran to pull Hermione out of the wreckage, Harry took the chance: He leapt over an armchair and wrested the three wands from Draco's grip, pointed all of them at Greybak, and yelled, "Stupefy!"

Always thought that was phenomenally stupid myself, but there it is.
 
It's not necessary to use a spell to disarm the person in order to transfer mastership; in the Tale of the Three Brothers, the First Brother just has the wand stolen from him (the guy also cuts his throat). In fact, since the wielder of the Elder Wand is supposed to be nearly impossible to beat in a straight-up duel, ownership typically passes via other means.
 
^ Yeah, in a really disturbing, I can't believe I just thought that way.
I'm huge huge huge fan of the series and I absolutely loved the movie. Although TBH I don't remember a thing about the book, I haven't read it since it so came out, but my mom does and she said was pleased with how much they did stay true to the book. You guys have pretty summed up most of my feelings in your posts, especially about Hermione's torture and the elves (Dobby is the m....er Elf!). I really think that Hermione's torture actually worked better how they did it than if shown what she did. I really think it worked better when they leave it up to you imagination that by showing every detail. And I think we can safely say that the characters and the series itself have definitely grown up alot since Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone. My Rating: Excellent.

Hermione torture scene was really effective. Emma's screaming and acting really sold it. And like you said, "left to the imagination" works very well here.
 
^There's a certain ambiguity how the 'defeat' works though, isn't there? If theft alone was enough, then Voldemort would be the master of the wand and Harry would be toast.

My reckoning was that the transfer of allegiance needs to include a moment of feeling defeated on the part of the owner as the wand is taken - an 'oh, bollocks' moment. Presumably Draco felt that way about Harry grabbing his (original) wand and that was enough, even though Draco didn't even know he was the owner of the Elder wand. It's not explicit in the text, though.
 
One other nobody else mentioned that I thought worked really well was the almost Nazi-ish vibe they gave the ministry under the Death Eaters. Especially the WWII style anti-Muggle propaganda, I that was especially effective.
 
Oh, and while Neville's one line was good (and Matthew Lewis definitely looks like he'll make a good action hero next movie), I loved the totally unexpected one-line return of Cormac McLaggen.:lol:
 
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Yeah, I thought that was funny too.:lol:

Yeah, there was definitely a Nazi vibe to the Ministry and rightfully so. The whole mooe reflects it.
 
Oh, I keep remembering stuff after I post.

Was Umbridge a Death Eater, or did she just cooperate with them?
 
Was Umbridge a Death Eater, or did she just cooperate with them?
She wasn't a Death Eater prior to the fall of the Ministry, no. She's like Laval or Quisling, somebody who got along famously with the new bosses (they already established in her first appearance that she didn't think much of non-wizards).
 
I liked the movie quite a bit. Yates did an excellent job of establishing the bleak outlook of the world, without making the whole film seem like a chore to sit through. The interactions of Harry, Hermione and Ron are a highlight -- they've really grown into their roles (as young adults and performers). I thought the musical score, while not especially memorable, fit the film exceptionally well. And Gaith was right about the politics. Why should we care that the MoM is being run like a totalitarian state when we've only previously seen it as either totalitarian, corrupt or incompetent?

Oh, and it was good to see General Grievous get a cameo appearance. :techman:
 
I didnt like the book, but accepting it was a film based on a book I didnt like it was ok.

That said it was a little too long, and considering it is hardly the longest book, splitting it into two movies when all the others were done in one was completely unnecessary.

The best part of the film was the middle when Harry and Hermione were on their own. Lots of romantic scenes there, which I loved.

I thought the guy who played the new wizard prime minister did a good job.

Visually a lot of what they did I liked, the ministry scenes, the outdoor scenese, Lovegoods house, the 3 brothers, all good.

Emma Watson, in shiny silvery style is very hot.

One thing I thought the movie made clear is that Ron can be a very petty man. I know the whole locket scene where he watches Harry and Hermione is supposed to be the evil in the locket fueling his worse nightmares, but everything in it is stuff he has said and thought throught the series, simply amped up a bit, and it just, when actually viewed, watching him see them say the stuff that drove him to be angry earlier, it's all so minor and inconsequential, comes across as petty.

And the best scene in the film? harry and Hermione dancing to some very great music.
 
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Ron could be a jerk and has an inferiority complex. Rowling was never afraid to make any of her characters (Harry, Ron, James Potter) look bad.
 
In the books, Ron is more clearly competent and heroic, but for the movies they gave a lot of his more heroic stuff to Hermione and made him just the "Watson" or comic relief sidekick character.
 
Yep. The worst was giving Ron's line "If you want to get to Harry, you'll have to go through (or kill) me!" to me. Ron looked horrible in the POA movie and he goes from criticizing Snape for calling Hermione an insufferable know-it-all to actually publicly agree with him. The best Ron portrayel in the movies was the first one and Order of the Phoenx, which was not written by Kloves. But finally in The Deathly Hallows, he's finally written like his book character.
 
Question: Will a DVD/Blu-ray be released with Part 1 and Part 2 compiled simply as Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (no bloody part 1 or part 2?)
I was wondering about this myself just before the movie started and I think if WB had any business sense, they will merge the two...but only after the two have been released individually. ;)

If not, someone online will.

Does a Blu-ray disc or DVD for that matter have enough space on one disc for 2.5+2.5 hours?
 
The positive feedback here is re-assuring. The first review I read was nasty. It basically said nothing happens in the film and it's all setup for the last part.
 
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