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Harry Potter 6 Moved to 2009!

bigdaddy said:
HP can handle the summer, Star trek can not.
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I have to agree with that. ST is a popular franchise but only one movie has crossed over $100 million at the box office. Would have been much better to put it in a less competitive holiday period. I think Paramount is overplaying their hand with this one.

Fucking Warner Brothers! Three months before the movie is set to be released and they pull this bush league shit! At least Paramount had the decency to do this with Trek a year before the movie was due to be released. I can't wait till they find an excuse to move HP to November 2009 now...

The only thing I'm looking forward to this holiday season is Quantum of Solace. But it's just not Harry Potter.
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Damn it! I was looking foward to this with the teaser just released not too long ago :klingon:
 
well, lets see what this means for us: what else is in the "competitive landscape" for winter 2008? Oh, I really do think it was simply due to the Writers' Strike leaving some rough edges (that's why Trek got pushed back), and further, the studio might have wanted to stay competitive with Star Trek and had nothing else to run against it, so rather than let it go unchallenged, decided to move to summer to make sure they stay in a head to head competition:

but what is out now in the "winter 2008" season? :

Well Harry Potter 6 was slated for November, but here's what we have that looks big:


  • October 10 - City of Ember
  • October 24 - Saw V
  • October 31 - Zack and Miri Make a Porno (Directed by Kevin Smith and starring Seth Rogen)
  • November 7 - Quantum of Solace - (James Bond #22), Repo!: The Genetic Opera
  • November 11 - The Road (post-apocalyptic film starring Viggo Mortensen)
  • November 30 - Game (starring Gerard Butler, as "an unwilling participant in an online game in which participants can control human beings as players")
  • November 5 - Punisher: War Zone
  • December 12 - The Day the Earth Stood Still (remake), Defiance (Daniel Craig stars as a leader of Jewish partisan fighters during World War II), Twilight (adapted from a Vampire-starscroosed-lovers 2005-novel between a vampire boy and human girl, targeted at the teen fangirl audience: apparently the book series has taken the nation by storm....I myself had never heard of it, until ***It completely overran Comic-Con, with hysterical Twilight-fangirls completely swarming their live-action movie panel. Will probably hook the Titanic-crowd.
  • December 19 - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
  • December 25 - The Spirit (film noir old-old-school crimefighter tale written AND directed by Frank Miller, and starring Samuel L. Jackson), and "9" a scifi stop-motion thing starring Elijah Wood
Well of these.......Twilight will make a lot of money but I have no desire to see it myself. I liked Saw I but haven't been following the series since,

"City of Ember" looks nice but I doubt I'll see it in theaters what with prices being what they are, though I'll probably watch it at home

I have yet to see a trailer of any kind for "Game" so I don't know if I'd watch it, beyond the "The Game"-esque desription. Also, won't see in theaters.

As for Punisher: War Zone.....they changed actors so I don't know if I'd see it now.

As for the Day the Earth Stood Still remake.......again, remakes of the caliber of "War of the Worlds" from Senor Spielbergo really left a bad taste in my mouth....I like Keanu Reaves and Jennifer Connelly, but frankly, even if the reviews are good (which I doubt) I don't think I'll be seeing this one.....

also Brad Pitt's Benjamin Button looked kind of interesting actually, but I don't think I'd watch it in theaters.

So THROUGH December 1, the only thing I actually want to see in theaters is "Quantum of Solace" on November 7

and as for December through the Christmas season, the only things I'd really watch are The Spirit or "9", and I actually might watch them, but to be honest, I'll only go if they get rave reviews (which they might)


Thus, the true horror of the Writer's Guild of America Strike of '07-'08, has finally caught up with Films, due to the time-delay between writing a film and making it (which is more noticeable on TV because they're filmed much closer to writing)

(sigh) well, more time to sit around getting ready for "Wachmen" in March


QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES?!

Edit: I'd see "Zack and Miri" if friends are going to see it, actually, but I myself do not plan to alone, but more importantly....the younger crowd that would go to Harry Potter certainly wouldn't go to see a borderline NC-17 sex comedy, even a very witty and mature one

And I actually might see The Road. Aragorn deserves his Oscar; "the crownless again shall be king"
 
that means that in July 2009, Radcliffe will be 20 years old but movie-Harry will be 16....of course, most of his scenes will already have been shot.

But there's already a 4 year lag time and they haven't started #7 yet.
 
DarthPipes said:
bigdaddy said:
HP can handle the summer, Star trek can not.
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I have to agree with that. ST is a popular franchise but only one movie has crossed over $100 million at the box office. Would have been much better to put it in a less competitive holiday period. I think Paramount is overplaying their hand with this one.
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It makes no sense to judge this ST movie by the standards of previous ST movies. Essentially none of the people involved in this movie (aside from a few minor technical staffers and supporting cast members) has ever worked on a Trek movie before, and the Paramount executive regime is totally different as well. The approach to this Trek movie is unlike anything since TMP, and bigger even than that. The second through tenth Trek movies were made on low to intermediate budgets and treated by Paramount as middle-of-the-road, play-it-safe pictures. The new movie is intended to relaunch the franchise as a major tentpole property, and no expense or effort is being spared.

Of course, that doesn't guarantee it will succeed. But the point is, we can't assume anything about it based on the performance of past movies. It's a totally different beast in terms of its scale, its scope, and the amount of support the studio is putting behind it.
 
ParticleMan said:
The article says that WB wanted a big tentpole pic for Summer 09 so they moved Harry Potter. But I would think it would still make a lot of cash and garner a lot of attention as the "big" holiday release...
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Warner Bros. already has Terminator Salvation as a big tentpole pic for Summer '09. Granted, it's better to have more. (In 2008, they've had The Dark Knight, Speed Racer, & Get Smart.)

I'm bummed that they're pushing it back to summer since I think that Harry Potter has always felt more like a winter franchise. (And, IIRC, the most successful Harry Potter movies were all winter releases.)
 
The Borgified Corpse said:
Warner Bros. already has Terminator Salvation as a big tentpole pic for Summer '09. Granted, it's better to have more. (In 2008, they've had The Dark Knight, Speed Racer, & Get Smart.)
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The Terminator films are financed independently. As with Terminator 3, WB will be distributing Terminator Salvation, and they'll see a nice windfall out of doing so, but most of the profit (or loss, whichever it turns out to be) will go elsewhere. They needed a big film for summer '09 where they would stand to reap most of the rewards.
 
V said:
that means that in July 2009, Radcliffe will be 20 years old but movie-Harry will be 16....of course, most of his scenes will already have been shot.

But there's already a 4 year lag time and they haven't started #7 yet.
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It wouldn't be the first time a person in their twenties played a teenager. Grint will be 21 at that same time. Luckily the three of them look young enough that it isn't a ridiculous premise that they're still playing teens.
 
Neeka Keet said:
V said:
that means that in July 2009, Radcliffe will be 20 years old but movie-Harry will be 16....of course, most of his scenes will already have been shot.

But there's already a 4 year lag time and they haven't started #7 yet.
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It wouldn't be the first time a person in their twenties played a teenager. Grint will be 21 at that same time. Luckily the three of them look young enough that it isn't a ridiculous premise that they're still playing teens.
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Their ages haven't been an issue in the other movies so far. As long as they are the same actors, I'm cool with it. And they've been pretty good about not even mentioning how old they are supposed to be.

In the last movie, I would have guessed they were in high school. I don't know if that's true, but it works for me.
 
Of course, that doesn't guarantee it will succeed. But the point is, we can't assume anything about it based on the performance of past movies. It's a totally different beast in terms of its scale, its scope, and the amount of support the studio is putting behind it.
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Exactly - part of the old dynamic is the false assumption: Its Trek, therefore it should be buried away cause it won't do so well. That losing mentality has very often kept Star Trek little rather then grandiose as it has the potential to be.

I'm afraid I don't buy into that pessimistic meme. Star Trek has only to strive to be epic and popular.

Sharr
 
Well, we should've known this was coming. When Star Trek was pushed back, we were told it was because the studio was reevaluating its release strategy in response to the strike. It stood to reason that other studios would be doing the same in the ensuing months. In fact, I'm pretty sure there have been a number of releases rescheduled; it's just that ST and HP are the ones that get the most attention.
 
The fact that it was coming out in just a few months is what makes the move surprising. At least for me.

With trek, the decision was made further in advance of the original release date. With HP, I can't help but imagine the publicity machine was already fired up for its fall premiere.
 
V said:
  • October 10 - City of Ember
  • October 24 - Saw V
  • October 31 - Zack and Miri Make a Porno (Directed by Kevin Smith and starring Seth Rogen)
  • November 7 - Quantum of Solace - (James Bond #22), Repo!: The Genetic Opera
  • November 11 - The Road (post-apocalyptic film starring Viggo Mortensen)
  • November 30 - Game (starring Gerard Butler, as "an unwilling participant in an online game in which participants can control human beings as players")
  • November 5 - Punisher: War Zone
  • December 12 - The Day the Earth Stood Still (remake), Defiance (Daniel Craig stars as a leader of Jewish partisan fighters during World War II), Twilight (adapted from a Vampire-starscroosed-lovers 2005-novel between a vampire boy and human girl, targeted at the teen fangirl audience: apparently the book series has taken the nation by storm....I myself had never heard of it, until ***It completely overran Comic-Con, with hysterical Twilight-fangirls completely swarming their live-action movie panel. Will probably hook the Titanic-crowd.
  • December 19 - The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
  • December 25 - The Spirit (film noir old-old-school crimefighter tale written AND directed by Frank Miller, and starring Samuel L. Jackson), and "9" a scifi stop-motion thing starring Elijah Wood
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I could have sworn there was another big release in there somewhere that I'm forgetting at the moment. I was also hoping for Marky Mark's Max Paine for this winter.
 
I wonder if they also wanted to keep clear of the massive tidal wave of Twilight publicity that I'm sure there will be this fall. Granted, most of the people here don't seem to care. (There seems a rough consensus that we're all more looking forward to The Quantum of Solace.) But Twilight is bound to bite a huge chunk out of Harry Potter's key demographic of fanatical teenage girls.
 
I haven't even heard of Twilight.

And I can't believe there's another Saw movie. The bad guy died in #3. I never saw #4.
 
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