Has anyone else noticed the officer in quetion says no responce, like the second he/she lets go of the button to push for a hail, they wait like 1 second before declaring no responce, yet when others hail them they often hang around for ages deciding if they're gonna answer
"Hailing" "no responce"
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This is just like how the communicators seem to be psychic (like when say Picard hails Riker and Riker hears it as Picard is saying it). It's just a reality of doing a TV show. It would be boring and a waist of time the episode most likely doesn't have if they had to wait 10 seconds before declaring "No Response" or having to wait until Riker heard "Picard to Riker" before responding.
Yeah that always annoyed me. Waiting a few extra seconds to file while the enemy ship is firing on your ship seems pretty stupid to me.I always liked the "fire on my mark" command, because the "mark" is usually less than 3 seconds after he says to wait for the mark. Just fire the damn weapons!
Well, I always assumed the weapons were more effective at closer range, so it kinda made sense.Yeah that always annoyed me. Waiting a few extra seconds to file while the enemy ship is firing on your ship seems pretty stupid to me.I always liked the "fire on my mark" command, because the "mark" is usually less than 3 seconds after he says to wait for the mark. Just fire the damn weapons!
How much closer are they going to get to the enemy in 2 or 3 seconds?Well, I always assumed the weapons were more effective at closer range, so it kinda made sense.Yeah that always annoyed me. Waiting a few extra seconds to file while the enemy ship is firing on your ship seems pretty stupid to me.I always liked the "fire on my mark" command, because the "mark" is usually less than 3 seconds after he says to wait for the mark. Just fire the damn weapons!
Oh dear...
A "fringe fan" is speaking!
For those not aware, the tech specs written up for the 24th century combadges established that they work by way of subspace, and the computer monitors the channels. It hears who the person is calling, and immediately, faster than you can blink, sends the signal thru to the person the message is meant for.
I was just in our local wholesale club store this afternoon, and heard a very primitive example of the same sort of thing. (Something I've seen in other stores in the past.)
One of the workers picks up a microphone and pages someone. They put the mic. down. A moment later their voice goes out over the store's intercom, and you hear a repeat of what you just heard close up.
Why the delay? I dunno. Odd. Like the PA system recorded it and replayed it or something.
Well, in 24th century Trek, it works that exact same way, only it's channeled thru the computer and its subspace processors. It's virtually instantaneous. The person on the receiving end hears the call at almost the same instant the sender spoke. Then, once the receiver replies, the communication IS live.
It always annoyed me that every time Picard gave the order to "fire at will," RIKER NEVER DIED!I always liked the "fire on my mark" command, because the "mark" is usually less than 3 seconds after he says to wait for the mark. Just fire the damn weapons!
I never had a problem with this in TNG. After all, if person A wants to call person B over a comm channel, those two people obviously aren't standing in the same room. Therefore, by default, we cannot tell whether Riker hears the "Picard to Riker" bit instantaneously (which would be impossible, because the computer doesn't yet know the call has to be routed to Riker when Picard says "Picard to") or after a slight delay. We will just have to accept that there indeed is a slight delay there that is cut out for dramatical reasons when the camera cuts from Picard to Riker.
As for the "no response" thing, it's apparently not as if Worf waits for an actual person at the other end to say "Hello" or anything. After all, Worf doesn't hail anybody verbally himself, either - he merely pushes a button that sends out the automated hail.
So obviously it's more like Worf hits the "hail" button, and at once gets the rude automated "incoming messages blocked, especially yours" signal from the other end. No need to wait for two people to actually exchange superfluous words there.
Timo Saloniemi
Considering how fast impulse is, you'd be surprised.How much closer are they going to get to the enemy in 2 or 3 seconds?Well, I always assumed the weapons were more effective at closer range, so it kinda made sense.
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just finished watching all of voyager in like 2 weeks....got a broken elbow and muscle damage here so i cant do much but sit and watch movies and stuff.....i digress
something i always noticed is that the tractor beam seems to be the most useless thing ever
its like
get a tractor beam on them, 1.2.3 they've destroyed it with a feedback pulse, or they're out of range. I dont remember to many instances where the tractor worked liked they wanted it too so ya
anyway glad to be on the board
D A N N Y
new to the forums
glad to be here
just finished watching all of voyager in like 2 weeks....got a broken elbow and muscle damage here so i cant do much but sit and watch movies and stuff.....i digress
something i always noticed is that the tractor beam seems to be the most useless thing ever
its like
get a tractor beam on them, 1.2.3 they've destroyed it with a feedback pulse, or they're out of range. I dont remember to many instances where the tractor worked liked they wanted it too
so yaanyway glad to be on the board
D A N N Y
Sure. But it's still the only sensible way of doing this thing.
In the military, you have to be redundant, formal and repetitive. As a precaution, you must treat all of your men as if they were so battle-fatigued that they could barely comprehend English, and so distracted that they missed most of your commands. In a matter as important as firing the ship's guns, you must prepare in advance the persons responsible, so that they know they will be getting a firing command in the next few moments and have to be ready to execute it. They must not be allowed to think that whenever they hear (or think they hear) the word "fire", they are entitled to immediately pull the trigger. It must be a "Simon says FIRE!" type of thing, for the safety of everybody involved.
...A friend of mine was in the coastal artillery for his mandatory military service, and during training he led a fortress turret through a firing exercise. The team worked very smoothly, but there was a lot of repetition and redundancy in the procedure of commands and actions, especially in the "free fire" part of the exercise. To be able to compete with the other turrets in speed, the friend decided to streamline the process, among other things allowing the gunner to fire at the call of "Attention!" rather than wait for the whole "Attention! Cleared for free fire!" command that inevitably followed at that stage of the procedure.
...Enter a supervising Colonel who decides to visit this particular turret right when the gun is loaded and ready to fire and the target has been set. The ammunition handler spots the Colonel and barks "Attention!"...
There was a lot of ringing of the ears even after the noise of the blast had died down. (Just as well that the turret scored impossibly perfect hits that day and impressed the foreign observers that were also present.)
Timo Saloniemi
I always liked it when Worf said "Mute"
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