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Guillermo del Toro exits "The Hobbit"

^^ Now that we know DH's plot, I think it's perfectly safe to say that Cuaron made the best Potter film full stop. ;)

Bull****!

Columbus made the best films, both in faithfulness to the source and in presentation. Cuaron started the trend AWAY from the lush "magical" feel of Columbus and towards the harsh, bleak presentation of the later films.
 
I always wondered why Jackson didn't just wnat to direct these films all along.

He let his vanity get the best of him post-LOTR (and this is coming from someone who liked Kong). Directing LOTR again will put him back on track, because a faithfulness to both Tolkien and telling a good screen story (which are not always compatible) was made him a director to be reckoned with. Since then - as a guy with free reign - he has lost something.
 
I always wondered why Jackson didn't just wnat to direct these films all along.

He let his vanity get the best of him post-LOTR (and this is coming from someone who liked Kong). Directing LOTR again will put him back on track, because a faithfulness to both Tolkien and telling a good screen story (which are not always compatible) was made him a director to be reckoned with. Since then - as a guy with free reign - he has lost something.

The problem was that he would have had to work more closely with New Line, and him and NL at the time were embroiled in the whole legal mess over accounting for the profits on the Trilogy.
 
POA on the other hand had...werewolves(pre-dating all this Twilight shit by about five years!)

I don't understand why that's such an accomplishment, considering werewolves pre-date POA in cinema by about 60 years, and the idea itself pre-dates that by hundreds. ;)
 
I always wondered why Jackson didn't just wnat to direct these films all along.

He let his vanity get the best of him post-LOTR (and this is coming from someone who liked Kong). Directing LOTR again will put him back on track, because a faithfulness to both Tolkien and telling a good screen story (which are not always compatible) was made him a director to be reckoned with. Since then - as a guy with free reign - he has lost something.

When you spend nearly a decade of your time on a single project no matter how awesome it is and you may like it you need some room after it and do something completely else.

Jackson said so himself and this is why he was "just" a producer and not the helmsman again.. however since he's still very close to it and apparently if they can't find a suitable director he may do it himself again rather than giving it to a person who'll treat it as just another (high profile) job.
 
And as long as we're making ridiculous replacement suggestions, might I throw Terry Gilliam's name into the hat?
Yeah, he can add another 3 years development time to the movies. :p
Ah, good, someone appreciated the humor of my suggestion. :d

And as long as we're making ridiculous replacement suggestions, might I throw Terry Gilliam's name into the hat?
Why would he be ridiculous? I think he'd do an excellent job.
I agree but I don't want to wait even longer for the film(s) to be produced. He's a fantastic director but he would had more years than necessary to get this produced. I'm not saying I wanted this film rushed out, but I don't want the production to drag out either.


Anyway, I see where this is going -- Jackson himself is going to cry uncle and direct it himself. I also expect to see it reverting back to a single film, which is fine by me because The Hobbit doesn't need to be split up. No book that can be read in a couple days (or even a single sitting, really) warrants two films.
I agree completely. I only liked the two-film idea when the second film was going to bridge The Hobbit with the trilogy, but I was dismayed by the decision to split the book into two films. More than anything else, there's not much of a natural break in the book.

This is surprising. He already has enough on his plate already, especially with the Tintin films.
 
With del Toro out of the picture Jackson would of course be the ideal choice. Shouldn't that work out, I'll second Alfonso Cuaron and Peter Weir (BTW is Crowe still trying to get the next Master and Commander started?), even Verbinski could work, apart from those I don't think there are too many people out there who could do the job.
 
I'd rather see Jackson direct. Del Toro never appealed to my tastes. I haven't really liked his movies much. I think Jackson is perfectly suited to The Hobbit and I imagined he wants to do it deep in his heart.
 
This is surprising. He already has enough on his plate already, especially with the Tintin films.
The production process for the Tintin films isn't particularity time-intensive for Spielberg and Jackson. Principal photography is very short and then they can oversee the lengthy post-production while they work on other things.
 
...which could be cool, except for the fact that either the story would up centred on Gollum, or Gollum would just steal Bilbo's limelight in a few, oddly intriguing performed scenes.

So no, no Tim Burton please. I'm with Trey Parker on this one. The combo Burton/Depp is starting to get really old.
 
With del Toro out of the picture Jackson would of course be the ideal choice. Shouldn't that work out, I'll second Alfonso Cuaron and Peter Weir (BTW is Crowe still trying to get the next Master and Commander started?), even Verbinski could work, apart from those I don't think there are too many people out there who could do the job.

While I can understand Jackson needing something of a break after the Herculean effort of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I think that he was always the only choice to do The Hobbit. He's lived & breathed in Middle Earth for so long in a way that no other Hollywood director could even conceive. (Plus, I'm pretty sure that Jackson himself is just a really tall Hobbit.) He loves this franchise and most people love his take on the franchise. To paraphrase Captain Spock, adapting Middle Earth novels is Peter Jackson's "first, best destiny. Anything else is a waste of material."

I never quite grasped the idea of Guillermo Del Toro directing the film. I thought he did a decent job with Blade II & Hellboy. However, Hellboy II seemed to lose the narrative in favor of weird-ass imagery & creature design. It felt less like a movie and more like a refuse pile for a bunch of unused Pan's Labyrinth sketches.

Gore Verbinski would be a good 2nd choice. At least, we know he can handle the size of the production.
 
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