GUARDIANS of the GALAXY - Grading & Discussion

[Skywalker]

I fully expect Thanos to get more of a build-up now that Marvel has confirmed they're heading towards Infinity War in 2019 and 2020.

You won't have to wait that long Part I is in 2018 and Part II is the following year, but GOTG II will be coming out in 2017.

Whoops, that's right. Somehow I'd gotten it in my head that they'd be out in 2019 and 2020, not 2018 and 2019. Thanks for the correction!

 

[martok2112]

Hanukkha Solo....OMG...that is great! Love the avatar!
I suppose you also could've went with Han Shalom, but your screenname definitely works with the avatar!

Mazel Tov!

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Anyone can say that such and such is the most powerful creature in the universe. That, by itself, won't make me care.

Weyoun was a wussy clone. A little girl like Ezri Dax, even before she was joined, could take him out while hardly breaking a sweat. But Weyoun was more compelling as a villain in his first scene than Thanos

I don't think Weyoun was a compelling villain in his first scene because he wasn't a villain. It was an uneasy alliance to fight the rebel Jem'Hadar. He came off as sleezy in that episode (where he had far more screentime than Thanos has had so far), but he wasn't a villain. It was after he was killed off and replaced with the second Weyoun that he started to get a bit more depth as a character.

ETA: I think calling Thanos the big bad is misleading. He certainly is a big bad that they're slowly building to, but there are plenty of movies without him before and there will be other big threats after.

I remembered that episode but I was referring to Weyoun 5. But I was making a broader point about villains.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

You weren't making a broader point, you were using a specific example that was supposed to stand in contrast to Thanos.

 

[DEWLine]

Luchino Nefaria? He started out as an Avengers villain, and then his daughter Giulietta (AKA Whitney Frost) became an enemy more specific to Tony Stark, Jasper Sitwell and Kate Bishop, in that historical order.

So both would be fair game for the MCU treatment.

 

[DWF]

Luchino Nefaria? He started out as an Avengers villain, and then his daughter Giulietta (AKA Whitney Frost) became an enemy more specific to Tony Stark, Jasper Sitwell and Kate Bishop, in that historical order.

So both would be fair game for the MCU treatment.

He also bugged the X-Men every so often, but I would've liked to have seen him in the second Avengers rather than Ultron if they weren't going to do the Thanos story. I'd still love to him face off against the Avengers.

 

[DEWLine]

They'll likely start him up via either the Defenders programs - if they continue past the first batch of mini-series - or Agents of SHIELD. From organized crime to full-on supervillainy? That would be my chosen route.

 

[JD]

^I've been kind of expecting Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin to be the big bad across the Defenders series, but that is purely a guess on my part.

As for what FSM is saying, I really couldn't care. Just call me a proud member of the lowest common denominator because all I want when I go to a movie is to be entertained. I don't really care how "substantial" or "manufactured" a movie is as long as I have a good time seeing it. I'm not saying I don't like deep character driven dramas, because I do, but I also just like to have fun, which GOTG was. A lot.

 

[Ovation]

^I've been kind of expecting Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin to be the big bad across the Defenders series, but that is purely a guess on my part.

As for what FSM is saying, I really couldn't care. Just call me a proud member of the lowest common denominator because all I want when I go to a movie is to be entertained. I don't really care how "substantial" or "manufactured" a movie is as long as I have a good time seeing it. I'm not saying I don't like deep character driven dramas, because I do, but I also just like to have fun, which GOTG was. A lot.

Yep.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I'm all for it... I actually rented guardians of the Galaxy the other day.. it was the first time I've seen it since going to the theater, and my friend and I watched it and we had a good time. More to the point, I have a few films that you might call guilty pleasures, or ones that I like for rather shameless reason... and I enjoy analyzing the pros and cons of blockbusters and find that many films that advertise themselves by saying how many awards that they've been nominated for to be rather pretentious because it says nothing about whether or not they are entertaining. I probably liked G.I. Joe Retaliation more than most. Part of it was nostalgia.. I loved the 80's cartoons and comicsa. PArt of it was that I was actually thinking I wouldn't like it, but whne I got home from my fahter's funeral, I put it in and found it to really help. But overall, I just enjoyed the hell out of it. The Rock was charismatic, I enjoyed a lot of the action, and iot played itself like a comic book movie pretty well. I guess someone could have a personal reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy and I am all right with that. But I do think the filmn was overrated. I don't like this devil-may-care attitude that Marvel has adapted. I did enjoy it a bit more last night, but the plot sturcture, and many of the things I originally complained about still hold up, and I don't really care for these characters . I'm saying it's a fun film, but to look at how people are talking about it, you'd think it was a whole lot more.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Fans are always going to overstate things...you're presumably a Trekkie as well as a Warsie...you should know this very well

Either you're into comic book movies or you're not, I'd say.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

funny
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHO984ysBJQ&feature=youtu.be[/yt]

 

[Aldo]

I'm all for it... I actually rented guardians of the Galaxy the other day.. it was the first time I've seen it since going to the theater, and my friend and I watched it and we had a good time. More to the point, I have a few films that you might call guilty pleasures, or ones that I like for rather shameless reason... and I enjoy analyzing the pros and cons of blockbusters and find that many films that advertise themselves by saying how many awards that they've been nominated for to be rather pretentious because it says nothing about whether or not they are entertaining. I probably liked G.I. Joe Retaliation more than most. Part of it was nostalgia.. I loved the 80's cartoons and comicsa. PArt of it was that I was actually thinking I wouldn't like it, but whne I got home from my fahter's funeral, I put it in and found it to really help. But overall, I just enjoyed the hell out of it. The Rock was charismatic, I enjoyed a lot of the action, and iot played itself like a comic book movie pretty well. I guess someone could have a personal reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy and I am all right with that. But I do think the filmn was overrated. I don't like this devil-may-care attitude that Marvel has adapted. I did enjoy it a bit more last night, but the plot sturcture, and many of the things I originally complained about still hold up, and I don't really care for these characters . I'm saying it's a fun film, but to look at how people are talking about it, you'd think it was a whole lot more.

If you use paragraphs more people will read what you write.

 

[Magellan]

I fully expect Thanos to get more of a build-up now that Marvel has confirmed they're heading towards Infinity War in 2019 and 2020. It's easy to complain about Thanos' lack of development thus far, but we have to remember that we're only ten movies into what will be a twenty-one film saga when it's all said and done, and Thanos was only just introduced in the sixth with just a (very) slightly more prominent appearance in the tenth, after the seventh, eighth, and ninth films all dealt with the fallout of what happened in The Avengers. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is essentially a serialized television show in movie format; things make a lot more sense when you treat it as such.

This is so true. It's hard to say if you can really review a Marvel movie at this point the same way as other movies. It really is exactly like a TV show where the payoff for something that you just watched might come a year or two down the line. If the payoff is good then the set up is worth it.

That said, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy but the love for it has gotten a little out of hand. It's undeniable that both Thanos and Ronan have almost nothing interesting going on in this movie. The story is very thin. It's really all about the humor and the 70's music which was enough for me to thoroughly enjoy it/ However I am a little flabbergasted that so many people think this was the best movie in years. I'm a Marvel guy, I love the Marvel movies but Captain America TWS had a lot more to say than this one.

 

[Tosk]

What difference does it make if people love it? Does it hurt another movie somehow?

Personally, I get a lot more out of it than just "humor and '70s music".

 

[trekkiebaggio]

I fully expect Thanos to get more of a build-up now that Marvel has confirmed they're heading towards Infinity War in 2019 and 2020. It's easy to complain about Thanos' lack of development thus far, but we have to remember that we're only ten movies into what will be a twenty-one film saga when it's all said and done, and Thanos was only just introduced in the sixth with just a (very) slightly more prominent appearance in the tenth, after the seventh, eighth, and ninth films all dealt with the fallout of what happened in The Avengers. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is essentially a serialized television show in movie format; things make a lot more sense when you treat it as such.

This is so true. It's hard to say if you can really review a Marvel movie at this point the same way as other movies. It really is exactly like a TV show where the payoff for something that you just watched might come a year or two down the line. If the payoff is good then the set up is worth it.

That said, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy but the love for it has gotten a little out of hand. It's undeniable that both Thanos and Ronan have almost nothing interesting going on in this movie. The story is very thin. It's really all about the humor and the 70's music which was enough for me to thoroughly enjoy it/ However I am a little flabbergasted that so many people think this was the best movie in years. I'm a Marvel guy, I love the Marvel movies but Captain America TWS had a lot more to say than this one.

Yeah, I still think Cap and X-Men were better movies. I really loved Guardians but the poor villain and the false tension with Groot at the end bothered me.

 

[Dr. Funkenstein]

This is so true. It's hard to say if you can really review a Marvel movie at this point the same way as other movies. It really is exactly like a TV show where the payoff for something that you just watched might come a year or two down the line. If the payoff is good then the set up is worth it.

That said, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy but the love for it has gotten a little out of hand. It's undeniable that both Thanos and Ronan have almost nothing interesting going on in this movie. The story is very thin. It's really all about the humor and the 70's music which was enough for me to thoroughly enjoy it/ However I am a little flabbergasted that so many people think this was the best movie in years. I'm a Marvel guy, I love the Marvel movies but Captain America TWS had a lot more to say than this one.

First, not everyone goes to a movie to have "something said" to them. Quite a lot of people go to movies to be entertained, and if nothing else, Guardians of the Galaxy was immensely entertaining. So it was a complete success in that regard for a large majority of people.

Second, the movie was more about setting up the universe and the main characters that, for the most part, no one had ever even heard of before. Thanos was little more than a cameo, as intended, and Ronan was just a tool for the real "villain" of the movie -- the Power Stone. Ronan was just some dick before he got his hands on it, revealing just how powerful and dangerous it was. So now when Thanos shows up again wielding the Power Stone (as well as the others), we'll know just how serious a situation that is in that movie. And all thanks to this one for setting up the foundation while still giving us an entertaining as hell movie.

As others have said, these Marvel movies aren't just one movie. They're a series of interconnecting stories, just like the comics. You can't really judge them on a per-case basis, you have to look at the whole.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I probably enjoyed Captain America TWS and X-Men DOFP more but I has considerably less expectations for GOTG than for them which is why I've tended to gush about it.

 

[Marsden]

This is so true. It's hard to say if you can really review a Marvel movie at this point the same way as other movies. It really is exactly like a TV show where the payoff for something that you just watched might come a year or two down the line. If the payoff is good then the set up is worth it.

That said, I do like Guardians of the Galaxy but the love for it has gotten a little out of hand. It's undeniable that both Thanos and Ronan have almost nothing interesting going on in this movie. The story is very thin. It's really all about the humor and the 70's music which was enough for me to thoroughly enjoy it/ However I am a little flabbergasted that so many people think this was the best movie in years. I'm a Marvel guy, I love the Marvel movies but Captain America TWS had a lot more to say than this one.

I think it's like I said to FSM, GotG was an action comedy, those tend to have less to "say" than a political thriller like Cap TWS or a science fiction time travel movie like X Men DoFP. Even though they are all comic book movies and Marvel characters, they really aren't in the same catagory to compare to each other.

I think the only requirement for a successful comedy is it's entertaining, and this fits that definition. Setting up stuff and lacking serious villains would be bad for some things, but not a comedy, IMO.

 

[Corran Horn]

I'm all for it... I actually rented guardians of the Galaxy the other day.. it was the first time I've seen it since going to the theater, and my friend and I watched it and we had a good time. More to the point, I have a few films that you might call guilty pleasures, or ones that I like for rather shameless reason... and I enjoy analyzing the pros and cons of blockbusters and find that many films that advertise themselves by saying how many awards that they've been nominated for to be rather pretentious because it says nothing about whether or not they are entertaining. I probably liked G.I. Joe Retaliation more than most. Part of it was nostalgia.. I loved the 80's cartoons and comicsa. PArt of it was that I was actually thinking I wouldn't like it, but whne I got home from my fahter's funeral, I put it in and found it to really help. But overall, I just enjoyed the hell out of it. The Rock was charismatic, I enjoyed a lot of the action, and iot played itself like a comic book movie pretty well. I guess someone could have a personal reaction to Guardians of the Galaxy and I am all right with that. But I do think the filmn was overrated. I don't like this devil-may-care attitude that Marvel has adapted. I did enjoy it a bit more last night, but the plot sturcture, and many of the things I originally complained about still hold up, and I don't really care for these characters . I'm saying it's a fun film, but to look at how people are talking about it, you'd think it was a whole lot more.

As a child of the 80s I was amazed they made live-action Transformers and GI JOE movies. That bought them a lot of scratch in my book. But after 4 TF movies, the last of which was not so good...it's kind of wearing off. But I get you.